Ask HN: Review my Startup -- wokhei.com

I have advised people to use cheap logo services as a way of getting a decent first draft--something they can use temporarily or take to a more involved designer for improvement.<p>If I pay for a logo (cheap, sure--but also with no opportunity for feedback) I expect to get (1) ownership, not a license and (2) the source files so some other designer I hire can improve it (or make it suck worse, or just make it black and white--doesn't matter, it's <i>my</i> logo).<p>Re: ownership, if you want to require me to agree to let you display it in your gallery, that's reasonable. (Even then, if you get pushback, consider an option to buy my way out of that. If someone's that concerned, just take their money and put the next one in the gallery.)

<i>You can access our services only through a Google Account. Why? Because virtually everyone has a Google account and this way you don't have to remember yet another password. </i><p>I see the logic in using OpenID for signin. But only google?<p>Defi9nitely not everyone has a google account (though perhaps your target audience will have). Also what about the people that do not want to use Google's services (there are plenty). And if you dont have a Google account it's a pain to go elsewhere - sign up - then come back.<p>However.... www.clickpass.com will do exactly the same thing and offers a much wider range of logins :) (HN here uses it). YOu might want to look into that - I doubt it will take much to switch to using Clickpass (as the openid sequence for them is similar to Google I believe)

I'm not going to comment on the site itself, but I've read through the comments here and would like to put something forward: You aren't focusing enough on making this a win for your customer.<p>I'm a potential customer. Right now, I see a process that limits my input to next to nothing, won't allow me to make revisions, and after all that, I don't even own the thing.<p>As a comparison, for $50 more I can get 4 concepts, two revision rounds and actual ownership at Logoworks. To me, the choice is clear.<p>I don't want or mean to disparage you but that is the current mindset of your potential customer. All I see are wins for you, but not many for them. I think you need to fix that ratio if you are to be successful.<p>Good luck to you!

I do represent your target audience, looking for a logo designer right now.<p>Besides login issue, already mentioned here, i think the video is too long, you should fit into 30-40 seconds with real example. I am missing portfolio, so can't estimate quality of the service you are providing.<p>Anyway I submitted request, will see what will be an outcome.

I've used LogoWorks a few times with success. In every case some revision was required...most logos are a committee effort so users want to be able to revise them...it is also nice to get a couple different versions with the understanding that you can choose to have one polished into a final logo.<p>Some site feedback: the monitor with rotating logos on the homepage is somewhat confusing. It looks like there are buttons but it is just a graphic.<p>The video is cute but it is a little drawn out.<p>The site branding is strong but may be too unprofessional for the market of people looking to pay money for a logo. I don't know if focusing it on "web 2.0 logos" or something might help refine and differentiate the site.<p>Overall it looks cool-- good luck!

How is this different then all the other logo creation sites and services out there? How is it better than using 99designs, etc?

I'd be interested in a nice logo for www.hecl.org , but I would need a BSD open source license for it. I would be willing to link to you guys, but probably not shell out the full price for it, since it's an open source project. Let me know if you're interested.

You need need need a portfolio. So far all I can see is one logo (yours) and it's not really the branding I'm looking for.<p>A portfolio would reassure me that you have a broader range, or that you excel at doing one kind of logo <i>really</i> well.

Completely Javascript reliant and (for me) painfully slow (the site loads, then the content flickers into view. A good half second I guess) if I enable it. Opera 10 beta on Linux.<p>edit: Actually it takes 4 seconds for the content to appear. And it borks my navigation-back. I have to press back at least 2 times to actually get back.<p>Without Javascript, this is your site: <a href="http://s1.image.gd/o/84/84730e851a4074e1040dcbe659d8f929989a5afe.png" rel="nofollow">http://s1.image.gd/o/84/84730e851a4074e1040dcbe659d8f929989a...</a>

Hate to be a stickler, but: "He will prepare your logo in 24hrs!" should be "They will prepare your logo in 24hrs!"

Your video is long and boring. Make it quick and simple; to the point.