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Tado Cooling – Intelligent AC control

38 点作者 macrosak大约 11 年前

11 条评论

robomartin大约 11 年前
Unlike Nest, which I&#x27;ve always seen as a gimmick sold on false advertising, I believe this has legs. Making these kinds of air conditioning units into intelligent devices could have significant effects.<p>Why do think I Nest is a gimmick almost bordering on a marketing scam? Because in only works in a relatively narrow range of applications (i.e.: small one or two room apartment). In a larger family home --and particularly a two story home-- it is worthless. You could save money with a cheap programmable thermostat. In order to really save money in such settings you need a zone system with one thermostat&#x2F;sensor per zone, a multiple stage compressor (or multiple condensing units), a variable speed air handler, a high efficiency HEPA filter, attic exhaust fans and, ideally, a filtered outside air bypass system to take advantage of cool night air.<p>I am in the middle of renovating my home and have done all the research. Nest is a waste of time and money. You&#x27;d save far more money --FAR MORE-- buying a relatively cheap whole house fan to cool the house down at night (at least in my region). But, hey, everyone believes that technology is magical. Damn the math and physics. Hence the hype and sales.<p>Automating window units is a different game. These are devoted mostly to cooling single rooms. So now you have the equicalent of a highly granular zone system. If you have a home or office with several of these units an intelligent control system could, depending on traffic patterns and the daily flow of people in and out of the various spaces, have a big impact. This is different.<p>EDIT: I see the cargo-cult HN down-voting got started right away. You can&#x27;t say anything bad about Apple, Tesla, Nest and others on HN. Of course, they never back-up their downvote because it&#x27;s purely emotionally driven.<p>So, here&#x27;s the challenge: If you think I am wrong about Nest tell me why and back it up. The comparison is between Nest and a cheap programmable thermostat. People&#x27;s lives are reasonably regular and heat cycles in the summer are too. If you are intent on saving money a programmable thermostat will do wonders. I&#x27;ve been experimenting with this for three years knowing that we would have to redo our cooling and heating system in 2014&#x2F;15. I&#x27;ve gone two full summers without running the air conditioner but for two weeks by rigging and intelligent $200 fan (meaning, I hooked it up to a $5 timer) to exchange air out of the house when outside air was cooler than inside. That move alone represented a savings of around $500 PER MONTH. See my point?
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joosters大约 11 年前
<i>&lt; 60MB per month upload, &lt; 5MB per month download</i><p>1) Seems like a lot of data, what exactly is it communicating and to whom? What are the privacy policies?<p>2) What happens if&#x2F;when the company stops running its servers? Does the device continue to work or will it become junk?
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uptown大约 11 年前
ConEdison in NYC will give you a device like this for free, and pay you $25 after installation if you sign up.<p><a href="http://www.coned.com/energyefficiency/residential_directloadcontrol_program.asp" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.coned.com&#x2F;energyefficiency&#x2F;residential_directload...</a>
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StavrosK大约 11 年前
That&#x27;s a very nice idea for an Arduino project. I already have an Arduino hooked up to my home server that can sense motion&#x2F;light&#x2F;temperature, so it should be easy to set it up to remotely control the AC as well.
legulere大约 11 年前
Strange thing to come from a company from Munich, as AC is barely used there.
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thelucky41大约 11 年前
According to Thingsquare, Tado is using their firmware [1], Mist, based off of the open source Contiki [2]. This is pretty cool, as it enables a ton of features like over the air firmware updates or running your own applications. I&#x27;m especially curious how they added bluetooth and ibeacon support into this.<p>[1] <a href="http://thingsquare.com/customers/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;thingsquare.com&#x2F;customers&#x2F;</a> [2] <a href="http://www.contiki-os.org/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.contiki-os.org&#x2F;</a>
theg2大约 11 年前
I was thinking about it until they decided to charge MORE for the developer edition. As there isn&#x27;t a Windows (Phone or otherwise) version out there I couldn&#x27;t use it.<p>Yes, I know, I run a Windows Phone and don&#x27;t own Android or iOS devices but companies should at least give people the ability without pay walling it.
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chillingeffect大约 11 年前
I wonder where they got the name Tado?<p>It&#x27;s quite similar to the name Taco, which is an 80+ year-old American HVAC company [0]. I hope they don&#x27;t get in trouble in the U.S.!<p>Other than that, great idea!<p><a href="http://www.taco-hvac.com/whoweare.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.taco-hvac.com&#x2F;whoweare.html</a>
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dmritard96大约 11 年前
all the IR stuff is done if you want it Tado. :D or at least a start<p>allows record and playback of IR codes as well as search of LIRC<p>also, if you are building an IR database, would you consider sharing the IR codes with the community?<p>after all, I&#x27;m sure Ken Sheriffs library and arduino are open tools that are likely helping you quite a lot in the early stages...<p><a href="https://github.com/dandroid88/webmote" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;dandroid88&#x2F;webmote</a>
lesingerouge大约 11 年前
Just for fun I once thought about using my Lego Next kit to build a bluetooth controlled robotic finger to operate my AC remote. So sorry I never got to it.
davidcollantes大约 11 年前
Isn&#x27;t this what Nest does as well?
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