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What’s So Scary About Smart Girls?

84 点作者 kareemm大约 11 年前

11 条评论

smnrchrds大约 11 年前
&gt; Iran and Saudi Arabia have both educated girls but refused to empower them, so both remain mired in the past.<p>Any article that compares Iran and Saudi Arabia like this is a naive over-generalization. I&#x27;m not sure what the author means by empowerment, but Iran is much closer to US in terms of gender equality than Saudi Arabia.<p>In Iran, 12-year education is mandatory for both genders. There are more female university graduates than male (around 60%), although much like US, fewer pursue engineering degrees[1]. More than half of medical students are female.<p>Yes, girls are discriminated against in labor market. There are less likely to get a job if there is a similarly-qualified or slightly less-qualified male candidate and will probably earn less than their male counterparts, but don&#x27;t you have the same problem in your country?<p>I hope you understand why I hate it when someone puts the name of my country in the same sentence as Saudi Arabia, where they sentenced a woman to flogging because she dared to drive[2].<p>[1] I don&#x27;t have any statistics, but in my university, 25-30% engineering students were female. There were less girls in traditionally male-dominated majors like civil engineering, compared to computer and electrical engineering. Also, the majority of Chemistry students were female.<p>[2] <a href="http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/flogging-sentence-saudi-arabian-woman-after-driving-beggars-belief-2011-09-27-0" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amnesty.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;news-and-updates&#x2F;flogging-sentence...</a>
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QuantumChaos大约 11 年前
The article tries to fit this event into a narrative about oppression of women, and women&#x27;s education. And yet Boko Haram are against education in general, and in a previous attack on a school, killed 59 school boys, while letting the girls go.<p>[1] <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/12/boko-haram-dontkillourboys.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thedailybeast.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2014&#x2F;05&#x2F;12&#x2F;boko-haram-...</a>
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nhaehnle大约 11 年前
The article reminds us of some very good points about our relationships with developing countries. Education does so much more for spreading democracy than drones do, but our monetary priorities don&#x27;t reflect this, unfortunately.<p>I stumbled in the last paragraph:<p><i>It’s estimated that 100,000 girls under 18 years old in the United States are trafficked into commercial sex each year.</i><p>What does that mean? With on the order of 5 million births per year (both boys and girls), that would imply 4% of all women are affected. That seems a bit on the high end. Does anybody know what&#x27;s going on here in terms of statistics?
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waterhouse大约 11 年前
[pedantry alert] The headline made me think the article was going to describe the sexual&#x2F;romantic tastes of some apparently important subset of heterosexual men. Or maybe the behavior of some set of boys probably in high school who are intimidated by smart girls in their classes. I wonder to what extent this is intentional... Meanwhile, the article talks only about educated girls, not mentioning the word &quot;smart&quot; outside the title, and there is a case to be made that &quot;smart&quot; and &quot;educated&quot; are, though correlated, distinct attributes. One could thus make a case that the headline is <i>wrong</i>, most likely for attention-grabbing purposes. Sigh. [end of pedantry alert]<p>That aside, let&#x27;s see. <i>&quot;Why are fanatics so terrified of girls’ education? Because there’s no force more powerful to transform a society.&quot;</i> Indeed. <i>&quot;What saddens me is that we in the West aren’t acting as rationally. To fight militancy, we invest overwhelmingly in the military toolbox but not so much in the education toolbox that has a far better record at defeating militancy.&quot;</i> I wonder if this has anything to do with what a powerful tool control of the educational system is. For example, look at what the North Korean government is able to achieve through that means. Are the Western governments exhibiting some kind of restraint here? Is it just that they haven&#x27;t really bothered? Is giving &quot;aid&quot; more difficult politically than beefing up the military? Or is it that serious funding of education would lead to fights about who gets to control it? I am ignorant of such matters, so I&#x27;ll shut up now.
chroma大约 11 年前
It&#x27;s interesting to see one commonality not mentioned by both the article and (so far) commenters.<p>Boko Haram, the Taliban, Saudi Arabia, and Iran differ in almost every way one can compare: wealth, nationality, race, language, political views, and more. But they do share one thing besides the oppression of women. Have you guessed it yet?<p>There are no Taoists throwing acid in the faces of women. There are no Buddhists massacring students. There are no Hindu dictatorships refusing to let women drive, or decreeing their testimony to be worth half that of a man&#x27;s <i>even in the case of rape</i>. No Zoroastrian state punishes thieves with amputation. Some of these religions have had their share of atrocities in the past, but they are rather tame now. Many of them have adherents who are ignorant, poor, and oppressed (especially the Tibetan Buddhists), but the doctrines and traditions surrounding them seem less prone to cause violence and unnecessary suffering than a book endorsed by every group mentioned in the article.<p>I truly wish it were otherwise.
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a-saleh大约 11 年前
Reminded me of documentary Solar Mamas: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON_NQ1HnRYs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ON_NQ1HnRYs</a><p>It is about program in Jordan to educate mothers in the poorest regions in basic electrical engineering to allow them to assembly and repair basic solar powered utensils. (Mostly panel-&gt;power adapter-&gt;battery-&gt;light)<p>The most interesting question for me in the film was &quot;Why don&#x27;t you educate men as well?&quot; with answer along the lines &quot;Any man from here with any marketable skill would run abroad, from his family, mothers will want to do something to feed their children&quot;.<p>Then there was the scene, where husband of one of the women in the program tried to force her back home and abandon the &quot;solar&quot; school.<p>I wonder if we could change that attitude about educating women in men like these ...
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facepalm大约 11 年前
Yes, boys are worthless. The reason the article cites for educating girls is that then they&#x27;ll have fewer kids, especially fewer boys who could end up making trouble.<p>And frankly the specific organizations for sending girls to school make me feel uneasy. I hope similar organizations exist for boys? I am sure there are lots of bright boys in the world who also can&#x27;t afford an education. Why make it gender specific? Why not just sponsor kids education, irrespective of gender?<p>I could imagine in some countries it is more difficult to send girls to school than boys. But a &quot;send kids to school&quot; organization could simply spend more effort there to send the girls to school. No need to make a &quot;girls education&quot; organization.
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tzs大约 11 年前
Duplicate from Sunday: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7728945" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7728945</a>
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Dewie大约 11 年前
Feb. 25. 2014: Federal Government College attack: Fury at military over Yobe deaths. At least 29 teenage boys dead at Federal Government College Buni Yadi.<p>Boko Haram doesn&#x27;t only target education for <i>girls</i>. Though that is how the media seem to want to present it.
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hellbreakslose大约 11 年前
There is that saying for that:<p>behind every great&#x2F;successful man there stands a woman :)
crystalmace大约 11 年前
Very good story.