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So, leboncoin.fr doesn't like my email alert webapp

66 点作者 jfoucher大约 11 年前

13 条评论

hbbio大约 11 年前
Almost incredible.<p>An extract (translated to English): &quot;no hyperlink TO [our site] can be done without prior agreement&quot;. I hope they&#x27;re suing Google too :)
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meepmorp大约 11 年前
This post is confusing both because I do not speak French and because the caffeine hasn&#x27;t kicked in yet, so I read that as LeBron Coin. Which doesn&#x27;t seem all that bad for a gimmicky crypto currency, honestly.
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wallzz大约 11 年前
In brief , Craiglist french website version known as &quot;leboncoin.fr&quot; sent a letter to the author of &quot;lebonmail.fr&quot; a website that uses leboncoin.fr API to send its users a daily email alerts of items to be sold on &quot;leboncoin.fr&quot;. The letter ask the author to stop using the service provided by leboncoin.fr immediately .
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eloisant大约 11 年前
Next time build a browser extension or a mobile app.<p>This way the traffic comes from all your users, not one single IP address and you have a better chance to stay off the radar.
bertil大约 11 年前
Scraping is clearly covered by robots.txt, one of the earliest conventions on the web. In their case (<a href="http://www.leboncoin.fr/robots.txt" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.leboncoin.fr&#x2F;robots.txt</a>) they allow the spiders from most commercial search engine, but disallow all others.<p>I think it&#x27;s a terrible idea from Schibsted (the Norwegian owners of the company) to react like this; but then again, lawyers...
baby大约 11 年前
Leboncoin is so badly made it&#x27;s a joke, and they completely monopolize the market. I&#x27;m raging just thinking I&#x27;m gonna have to use it to look for an apartment and sell my furniture in Bordeaux those next months. Makes me want to build a competition.
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julie1大约 11 年前
to sum up the author of the news and recipient of the mail cannot read french correctly.<p>It is a cease and desist letter on the use of a name «lebonXXX.fr» that in all due respect seem is a clear parasitism of a registred brand: it bears a similar name, it is related to the activity of the original site. And le boncoin.fr is registered @ l&#x27;INPI (national registration office of brands).<p>In PI law, the infringement is about the confusion that results in the brand aka reputation and not on the use of an external API.<p>It does not mean I support leboncoin, because I could not care less. @ least I don&#x27;t appreciate people misleading others based on fake victimisation.<p>Cher jonathan: en matière de droit «nul ne peut se prévaloir de ses propres turpitudes»
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torvix大约 11 年前
they did the same thing to lebitcoin.fr last year<p><a href="http://www.numerama.com/magazine/26352-le-bon-coin-demande-a-lebitcoin-de-cesser-son-activite.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.numerama.com&#x2F;magazine&#x2F;26352-le-bon-coin-demande-a...</a>
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yp_all大约 11 年前
Correct me if I am wrong, but maybe one way to look at the CFAA or situations like this one is that every website has the right to deny access to any particular user.<p>This can be done via firewall ruleset but also via cease and desist letter.<p>That seems reasonable.<p>But... for this type of approach to make sense with respect to a website that wants as much traffic as posssible, we have to make certain assumptions.<p>One assumption is that few if any users will automate their usage.<p>If hundreds of people began to write their own &quot;apps&quot; to automate how they use this website, then the lawyers would have a more serious problem that they might not be able to solve.<p>The website operators might have to reconsider their access model.<p>Could they move to a subscription-only service?<p>Could they use a whitelist of IP address blocks?<p>Could they still be competitive if they began to move away from open access?<p>In my opinion, the practicality of the cease and desist letter approach to website access (anyone can access except if we tell you to stop) is reliant on expected patterns of usage.<p>When kids learn how to program in school, should that day ever come, then they will learn how to automate. They wil be able to write their own &quot;apps&quot;.<p>Will cease and desist letters and the judicial system be fully automated at that point? (The evolution of the DMCA comes to mind.)<p>The RIAA and others have tried to sue large groups of users all at once and it did not achieve anything except bad PR. Could website operators bring proceedings against large numbers of users and succeed?
eaxbin大约 11 年前
Anyone care to explain, to the non-french-speaking crowd, exactly what leboncoin is? And what the letter says?
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dgerges大约 11 年前
Hi Johnathan, they deliberately don&#x27;t want to provide email alerts or even a decent search because that would break their rather excellent business models (users spend hours browsing pages of listing rather than searching which drives page views and ads impressions). They killed a site similar to yours a few years ago (leboncoinrss or something along the lines I believe). I wouldn&#x27;t try to base a business on something which hijack the user experience they have created. On my spare time I&#x27;m scrapping their site to do some data analysis and so far despite the traffic I generate no problem. Let me know if you want to discuss that.
lbr78480大约 11 年前
Hello,<p>I am now building some kind of (read) API to the website.<p>The work is in progress, and on a restricted area (one country) I am able to index all pages in near real time (near...).<p>Maybe someone of you may be interested into some info or collaboration ?<p>Here is my email jhin2g9e8o2ik7j at jetable dot org<p>Bye Lbr
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pilooch大约 11 年前
leboncoin.fr is known for developing all necessary tools internally. So... they should hire this guy, that&#x27;s all! losers...