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Don’t Blame Big Cable. It’s Local Governments That Choke Broadband Competition

162 点作者 apu大约 11 年前

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zdw大约 11 年前
The fundamental problem here is that in most places we&#x27;ve arbitrarily decided that certain things like:<p><pre><code> - Roads - Water&#x2F;Trash&#x2F;Sewer - Police&#x2F;Fire service </code></pre> Are a part of municipal government, whereas:<p><pre><code> - Electrical - Telephone - Cable TV </code></pre> Are frequently not, but are regulated. Frequently, one of these last 3 will own the poles (usually the Electrical company, but sometimes the municipality) and the Phone&#x2F;Cable companies lease the poles to put up their lines.<p>So, what do you do? Make the Electric company put up New Companies A-Z&#x27;s lines for free? That doesn&#x27;t work and would quickly lead to companies covering the lucrative part of town (read: &quot;rich&quot;) and widening the digital divide.<p>It comes back to the bad decision that didn&#x27;t force Cable to be a common carrier. Had that happened, we&#x27;d end up with a situation like DSL where there are multiple vendors, except the lines would have the same speed capabilities as Cable.<p>So, in short, it comes back to a bad FCC decision. Requiring a bunch of new physical infrastructure isn&#x27;t needed when the existing could just be broken up and leased out as dumb pipes.
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yaur大约 11 年前
Municipally owned&#x2F;maintained FTTH with ISP access from an analog to a CO is a good thing IMO and something that the incumbents have used the courts to shut down in the past[1]. The Wired piece makes a seemingly legitimate argument (franchise agreements increase the cost for new entrants) while ignoring the actual alternative (which would dramatically decrease the cost for new entrants) that those outside of the industry may not even be aware of and in that regard is a bit dishonest.<p>Why is this coming up now? One of the interesting tidbits I picked up from industry coverage[2] of the current round of FCC rule making is &quot;Wheeler intends to nullify state laws that prevent local governments from establishing broadband service&quot;. Which is something I don&#x27;t think the industry wants to happen. So, yeah open access is great but giving cities the &quot;If you don&#x27;t provide acceptable internet service we will&quot; stick is valuable as well.<p>[1] <a href="http://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2008/07/telco-wont-install-fiber-sues-to-keep-city-from-doing-it/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;uncategorized&#x2F;2008&#x2F;07&#x2F;telco-wont-inst...</a> [2] <a href="http://www.cedmagazine.com/blogs/2014/05/fcc-four-more-months-of-bickering-about-net-neut" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cedmagazine.com&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;2014&#x2F;05&#x2F;fcc-four-more-month...</a>
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imgabe大约 11 年前
So the cable companies aren&#x27;t aggressively lobbying municipal governments to keep out competition? Where do you think these costs came from?<p>And god forbid the municipality try to build out its own network. That will just inspire the incumbent cable company to take them to court until the project gets scrapped.<p>No, I think we can pretty easily blame Big Cable for this one.
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Aloha大约 11 年前
I work for a major wireless carrier - we see this all the time with permitting - many of our rural sites dont even require a permit - we can just go out and swap the equipment on the pad, hand the new stuff on the tower. Our urban sites, some of them are just now getting permits that were applied for in 2011, not to mention the couple hundred bucks in fees (or more) to get said permits - all to simply change a bit of hardware bolted to a concrete pad - and on top, often costs for reinspection once were done bolting the new stuff on.
wnevets大约 11 年前
Bullshit.<p>When local governments (i.e counties) attempt to roll out their own broadband, big cable (i.e comcast) sue to prevent it from happening.
rayiner大约 11 年前
I think it is absolutely key to look past all the rhetoric and see what Google is actually asking for in return for building fiber.<p>&gt; In Kansas City and Austin, local governments wanted Google Fiber more than they wanted kickbacks. So they expedited the permitting process, gave Google rights-of-way access for little to no cost, and allowed Google to build-out selectively — i.e., in neighborhoods where consumers actually expressed demand.<p>Kansas City agreed to get the permits done in 5 days. Provo sold Google for $1 a fiber network they had spent over $30 million constructing. Most if not all of the cities declined to impose build-out requirements: enough users had to sign up in each &quot;Fiberhood&quot; to justify Google deploying there.<p>This stands in stark contrast to what happens when companies try to deploy fiber or cable in other places.<p>Read Comcast&#x27;s franchise agreement for Wilmington, DE, a small, poor, city of about 70,000 people: <a href="http://www.wilmingtonde.gov/docs/1320/3716Rev1.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wilmingtonde.gov&#x2F;docs&#x2F;1320&#x2F;3716Rev1.pdf</a>.<p>In addition to the hefty franchise fee, paid out of gross, the city extracts a couple of million dollars in funding for government programs, and imposes a built-out requirement that requires Comcast to build out to every neighborhood above a certain (low) density, even if enough customers don&#x27;t sign up to make it profitable. Similar build-out requirements killed FIOS deployment in the city: <a href="http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/verizon-defends-honor-wilmington-fios-talks/2008-12-08" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fiercetelecom.com&#x2F;story&#x2F;verizon-defends-honor-wil...</a>.<p>In short, I can&#x27;t have FIOS because Verizon wasn&#x27;t willing to build it out to all the neighborhoods in the city that have 30-50% of its residents living under the poverty line.<p>This sort of article typifies the local response: <a href="http://seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2023420101_briercolumn21xml.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;seattletimes.com&#x2F;html&#x2F;businesstechnology&#x2F;2023420101_b...</a>.<p>(&quot;Once cities provide these handouts, they don’t have much leverage. They’ll end up bowing and scraping and hoping that Uncle Google throws a bit more fiber their way, someday. The experience in Kansas City — where suburbs are stuck waiting for Google to extend its fiberhoods — suggests that cities in a region targeted by Google Fiber should work together on setting expectations and deadlines. Yes, a provider like Google may abandon a city that doesn’t play along. But is that such a loss if the company ends up cherry-picking and making the market less attractive to other providers — including public utilities — that might come and provide fast broadband for everyone?&quot;)<p>In other words, they want to subject fiber deployment to the typical class warfare that characterizes municipal politics. It&#x27;s better for nobody to have fiber than for wealthier areas to get it while communities that can&#x27;t afford it don&#x27;t. In New York City, the mayor has turned Verizon&#x27;s FIOS deployment into an economic justice issue and hired a civil rights lawyer: <a href="http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20140219/TECHNOLOGY/140219845/mayor-pushes-verizon-to-discount-fios-for-poor" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.crainsnewyork.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;20140219&#x2F;TECHNOLOGY&#x2F;140...</a>.<p>Who do you blame for not having fiber? How many cities would already have competitors deploying fiber if they had adopted the kind of regulatory regimes Google is demanding as a pre-condition for launching fiber?
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adventured大约 11 年前
Where I live Comcast is barred from offering me Internet access due to the small city I live in offering another cable company a long term monopoly.<p>So I pay $75 for 15 mbps. I could be paying $25 less and getting twice the speed if I lived 10 minutes another direction.<p>Local governments are at least half the problem, but it&#x27;s clearly a public + private collusion problem, in which both parties work together to establish monopolies. And the solution is simple (but will never happen): all telecom monopoly contracts should be voided nationally, immediately.
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saalweachter大约 11 年前
If I&#x27;m reading Wikipedia correctly, Wired is owned by Conde Nast, which is owned by Advance Publications, which also has a large stake in the Discovery network.<p>Hooray for an independent press!
higherpurpose大约 11 年前
Blame both. The cable companies asked for the local monopoly in the first place...
stcredzero大约 11 年前
We seem to be in as bad a situation now, as we were in when the telephone company had a monopoly running right up to the jacks in your house. (And most likely sold you the phone that plugged into that jac on top of it!)
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tormeh大约 11 年前
Who would want an ISP to innovate? Latency, bandwidth and cost are the only things that matter. ISPs should be prohibited from offering anything else than internet access. No phone, no video, no toilet cover delivery.
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NorthGuy1大约 11 年前
Can I blame both?
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VikingCoder大约 11 年前
Wow, it can <i>double</i> the cost?<p>Well, then we should have seen $150 billion in delivered broadband, since we have given $300 billion in tax subsidies to broadband providers, in exchange for broadband development.<p>We have not seen $150 billion in delivered broadband value.<p>Ergo, this argument is wrong. I do blame Big Cable.
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closetnerd大约 11 年前
no blame both big cable AND local governments ... its always a distraction to polarize the argument ...
Goronmon大约 11 年前
So, say that every town&#x2F;city in the country streamlined the process for handling &quot;right of way&quot; and reduced the asking price for access.<p>Would this actually lead to an increase in competition or would it just lead to greater profits for the incumbents?
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sp332大约 11 年前
Every local government in America?
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z3t4大约 11 年前
I&#x27;d say blame the people that don&#x27;t want more then 10 Mbit. And think that everyone who has 10+ Mbit only use it for &quot;illegal activities&quot;.
ozten大约 11 年前
Many local governments have given exclusive rights to a single private company. I wish that opinion editorial had some data to backup it&#x27;s assertions.
jinushaun大约 11 年前
Seattle and SF
dba7dba大约 11 年前
Wow, really? It&#x27;s the local govt fault that our internet connectivity sxxxxs?
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