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Forget 'the Cloud'; 'the Fog' Is Tech's Future

50 点作者 webdisrupt大约 11 年前

14 条评论

amirmc大约 11 年前
For everyone slating this article, please try thinking of it from a different perspective (and look beyond the buzzwords). Here&#x27;s my take.<p>(paraphrasing) &#x27;In the rush to &#x27;the cloud&#x27; people are disovering that there are bottlenecks related to bandwidth to edge devices (phones etc) and this problem will only increase as more and more devices become conencted (cf Interent of everything). However, not all services&#x2F;products <i>need</i> to constantly push data back and forth to a centralised place. There is enough processing power in many devices such that more processing can happen at the edge so why not build more applications this way? Cisco and IBM see merit in this approach and hope to capture part of a (presumabley nacscent) market by providing some kind of processing ability that is a little nearer the edge of the network, rather than huge datacentres.&#x27;<p>Is that any better?<p>My view on the article is that until developers can more easily build distributed applications, then we&#x27;re stuck with the prevailing paradigm of large centralised services. I don&#x27;t see how anything from Cisco or IBM changes anything other than having a slew of mini-datacentres that essentially do the same thing.<p>What we really need are the means to create, deploy and maintain software in a more distributed manner. Having all the fancy smart sensors in my home talking to <i>my</i> hub is preferable to having them all talking to their individual silos. At least then, I can excersice some control of what&#x27;s going on within my network and benefit from e.g. my high-speed wireless vs my much slower upstream bandwidth.<p>FWIW I&#x27;m working on an open source toolstack to make building distributed systems a lot more stratightforward. Essentially, we want to get to a place where everyone can own their own piece of the cloud. Whether that ends up being called the &#x27;fog&#x27; or &#x27;dust cloud&#x27; or &#x27;motes&#x27; is beside the point. You can read an overview at <a href="http://nymote.org/blog/2013/introducing-nymote/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;nymote.org&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2013&#x2F;introducing-nymote&#x2F;</a>
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JunkDNA大约 11 年前
Like most of you, this article caused multiple PR-early warning detectors to fire in my head. It&#x27;s unfortunate because there is a useful kernel to keep in mind here.<p>If there&#x27;s one thing you can bet on in computing, it&#x27;s that technological trends are a pendulum that swings back and forth over time. The pendulum has been pegged on the &quot;cloud&quot; side for a long time.<p>One thing I&#x27;ve learned over the years is that the pendulum changes direction pretty much at the precise moment you start thinking it&#x27;s not going to. I think &quot;the cloud&quot; falls in that category right now. I don&#x27;t really know what the swing away from cloud computing looks like, but I won&#x27;t at all be surprised when it shows up.
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girvo大约 11 年前
The fog? Computing on the computers themselves? Isn&#x27;t that basically what we&#x27;ve already been doing since... well, literally since computers were invented?<p>That said, I don&#x27;t know if there is a snazzy marketing term, but offline-capable apps with proper syncing support is the best solution for most stuff I want to create and use. I have a super computer in my pocket, so yeah it&#x27;s nice to have snappy stuff done there, but data kept nice and backed up (as well as dispersed across the rest of my devices) using the &quot;cloud&quot;.<p>Calling it &quot;the Fog&quot; is dumb, however.
ama729大约 11 年前
<p><pre><code> &gt; I&#x27;m as big a believer in the transformational power of cloud computing &gt; as anyone you&#x27;ll meet. Smartphones, which are constantly seeking and &gt; retrieving data, don&#x27;t make sense without the cloud, and any business &gt; that isn&#x27;t racing to push its data and software into someone else&#x27;s data &gt; center is, in my view, setting itself up for disruption by a competitor &gt; who is. </code></pre> - A smartphone is useful even without internet.<p>- My local restaurant wont get disrupted because it&#x27;s not using Cloudfront.<p>At first I though it was a parody (Seriously, &quot;the fog&quot;?), well apparently I wasn&#x27;t wrong...
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pling大约 11 年前
My word that article triggered my bullshit detector instantly.<p>Cloud, fog, internet of things, big data, smart, edge computing. Ugh.
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josefresco大约 11 年前
Stopped reading&#x2F;caring when I read &quot;the fog&quot; a term created by &quot;Marketers at Cisco Systems Inc.&quot;<p>Noting to see here, just more PR fluff.
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mindcrime大约 11 年前
And, of course, anybody dealing with &quot;the fog&quot; needs a &quot;fogbeam&quot;[1]. :-)<p>All joking aside, this seems like a weird term to try and coin. Isn&#x27;t it just what people are mostly calling the &quot;hybrid cloud&quot; today?<p>[1]: <a href="http://www.fogbeam.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fogbeam.com</a>
joncrocks大约 11 年前
Coming soon, &#x27;the mist&#x27;.
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JTxt大约 11 年前
The &#x27;cloud&#x27; idea bothered me from the start. But not as much about bandwidth and latency, but a loss of control of private data and that the company and network become single points of failure.<p>It&#x27;s about control of my data; I have to give it up to to benefit from a computing service.<p>Homomorphic encryption is an interesting thought: Allow my neighbors or a computing service to process my data without them able to see it. <a href="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homomorphic_encryption" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Homomorphic_encryption</a>
webmaven大约 11 年前
Also: <a href="http://imdb.com/rg/an_share/title/title/tt0080749/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imdb.com&#x2F;rg&#x2F;an_share&#x2F;title&#x2F;title&#x2F;tt0080749&#x2F;</a>
bchjam大约 11 年前
I guess they got tired of calling it mesh networking
thecolorblue大约 11 年前
The problem is bandwidth? I don&#x27;t buy it.
eli_gottlieb大约 11 年前
Not utility fog composed of nanobots; I don&#x27;t care.
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al2o3cr大约 11 年前
&quot;That&#x27;s what you want me to believe, you f<i></i>ks! I see through your fog! I don&#x27;t talk to robots! I&#x27;m going to call Commissioner Duck!&quot;