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NFL players: height and weight over time

220 点作者 chwolfe将近 11 年前

26 条评论

torbit将近 11 年前
Anytime I see a post about football I wonder how it is different from rugby, so I&#x27;ll just post this intresting article<p>&quot;In rugby, the only collision (i.e., running at speed for the purpose of forcing a player to the ground) is when one has the ball. The other 29 lads on the pitch are there for support. In American football, 21 of the 22 players had better be colliding with someone on every down - at full speed. In gridiron, there is collision while blocking. In rugby, the equivalent is called &quot;obstruction&quot; and is illegal, thus there are far more opportunities - requirements - for player collision in American football.&quot;<p><a href="http://wesclark.com/rrr/pads_and_helmets.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;wesclark.com&#x2F;rrr&#x2F;pads_and_helmets.html</a>
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incision将近 11 年前
Craig M. Booth has done some very nice visualizations on this subject [1]. I found this chart comparing height&#x2F;weight of 2013 rosters by position [2] particularly interesting and this set [3] covers a question that anyone who has read <i>Outliers</i> has probably wondered about.<p>1: <a href="http://www.craigmbooth.com/category/nfl/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.craigmbooth.com&#x2F;category&#x2F;nfl&#x2F;</a><p>2: <a href="http://www.craigmbooth.com/height-and-weight-of-every-active-football-player/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.craigmbooth.com&#x2F;height-and-weight-of-every-active...</a><p>3: <a href="http://www.sportsballweekly.com/the-relative-age-effect-in-pro-sports/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sportsballweekly.com&#x2F;the-relative-age-effect-in-p...</a>
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mkhaytman将近 11 年前
I&#x27;d like to see how the general population changed in the same time, then maybe a revision of this graph keeping it in perspective of how the rest of the population changed.
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S_A_P将近 11 年前
I wonder if this has compounded the TBI and concussion issue over the years. I think sports medicine in general has gotten much better and the average player is probably bigger and stronger and thus able to hit harder than 20+ years ago...
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nubs将近 11 年前
Very interesting how you can definitely see 3 distinct groups emerge in recent years. I&#x27;m guessing linesmen are the majority of the group that really shifts over to the right.
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bane将近 11 年前
I like how in the 80s, height stopped increasing, but weight kept increasing, and a little blog of the highest weights just shot out to the right.<p>I live very close to one of the pro team&#x27;s training camps, and see the players around town every once in a while. Professional athletes like this are truly in a league of their own. You can go to any random gym and look for the guys there in peak physical condition. The pro-NFL guys stand out easily in a crowd of gym guys. Not just the really huge guys, but you can spot one of the &quot;smaller&quot; players from a mile away. Their musculature and body motions are simply superhuman. It&#x27;s something very very hard to see on TV when they&#x27;re surrounded by their peers.
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derekjobst将近 11 年前
What&#x27;s interesting is before the 1970&#x27;s it appears as though there is just one group of players, at which point they become three. Then, over the following 40 years these groups seems to just get heavier - most likely a response by teams to maintain heavier players than their opponents in certain positions.<p>While the general growth over time makes sense, I wonder what caused the shift specifically in the 70&#x27;s.
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Florin_Andrei将近 11 年前
Fantastic viz.<p>So, they pushed up on the height parameter, but hit a ceiling.<p>Then they&#x27;ve started to push further on the weight parameter, where the &quot;ceiling&quot; is more flexible.<p>You can bulk up to some extent, but your height is pretty much a given.
Theodores将近 11 年前
This article serves to illustrate how different America is from the rest of the world. Outside America nobody knows what NFL is beyond that it is some strange variant on the football theme, related to football in no more way than how a whale is related to a dog.<p>Then there are &#x27;customary units&#x27;. Outside America nobody knows what a pound of weight is, is that pound of &#x27;customary units&#x27; the same as an &#x27;Imperial&#x27; pound? Nobody knows, particularly when applied to body weight. The height situation is better, there are places like the UK where Imperial measurements are used for height, but, in mainland Europe and beyond, I doubt anyone knows what 6&#x27; tall means.<p>I imagine that in America it is hard to see this perspective on how different America is, and, most of the time with most HN stories there is no cultural barrier to understanding things, yet this story is an edge case and reminds me how different American culture really is.
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AlexMcP将近 11 年前
What sort of method would be used to cluster those, statistically speaking? Like, given a data set like that, how would you determine if the distribution is multi-modal or unimodal?
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amiramir将近 11 年前
I&#x27;d be interested in a similar chart for rugby union where my guess is that the increase in height and weight has happened more quickly. It&#x27;s just a hunch but I am guessing that overall size in rugby has increased dramatically since the sport went professional in 1995.
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robotcookies将近 11 年前
How accurate are these figures? I know that many teams will inflate the posted weight and height of their players. There is no regulation requiring that the publicly posted figures are accurate so they nudge them higher for psychological effect.
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1238488462662将近 11 年前
Steroids. Relevant: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigger,_Stronger,_Faster*" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Bigger,_Stronger,_Faster*</a>
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DavidSJ将近 11 年前
It seems to become bimodal towards the last decade or two. Any idea as to why?
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mathattack将近 11 年前
I find it interesting that a break appears in 1993 where the Extremely Huge (lineman) separate from those merely Very Large.<p>My old man once commented that he his Big 10 college alma mater once had someone on the football team whose only virtue was being 275 pounds.
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moron4hire将近 11 年前
My biggest take-away: the smallest guys today are in the median of players from the 20s. The biggest players from the 20s would only be in the lower quartile of the players today. There is nobody today as small as the smallest players from the 20s.
nichochar将近 11 年前
Fasinating, reminds me of a great TED talk about this: &quot;Are athletes really getting bigger, faster, stronger?&quot; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8COaMKbNrX0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=8COaMKbNrX0</a><p>tl;dr: no
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tohmeiphun将近 11 年前
The player equipment has also become much more advanced, but is it helping or hurting? They should go back to leather helmets and no pads (like rugby) and see what happens.
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cafard将近 11 年前
One could probably bring the weight back down by strictly limiting substitution. Until the late 1950s a lot of players played on both sides of the line of scrimmage.
panzagl将近 11 年前
The WWII years (&#x27;42-&#x27;45) have more of a range than before or after, presumably because of the draft.
markb139将近 11 年前
I wonder what the same animation would look like for sw developers. Im 6ft6 and 252lbs. Though being a Brit I&#x27;d say 6ft6 and 18 stone or even 2m and 114.5 kg.
andrewgjohnson将近 11 年前
Interesting, by position would probably be more interesting. Or &quot;position group&quot; e.g. DB&#x27;s, CB&#x27;s &amp; S&#x27;s
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Evgeny将近 11 年前
Anyone can recommend an API or tutorial on how I could create similar visualisations myself or use a third party tool?
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guelo将近 11 年前
Seems like they don&#x27;t have any use for 280 pounders nowadays.
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Volscio将近 11 年前
The visualization looks like Conway&#x27;s game of life.
kghose将近 11 年前
Apparently the breeding program is working.