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Das Referenz: Wikipedia Redesigned for iPad

50 点作者 sygma将近 11 年前

17 条评论

chime将近 11 年前
If the creators of this project are reading this thread, I hope you don&#x27;t take the criticisms here too personally. I don&#x27;t know why nearly every new project on HN gets completely ripped apart nowadays unless it&#x27;s some clever hack or backed by a popular&#x2F;famous creator.<p>I think the app looks great and compared to the desktop&#x2F;mobile versions of the Wikipedia website, it is a significant improvement when it comes to readability. So what if it doesn&#x27;t do justify or support editing content. Justify is a minor setting that can be easily implemented and editing could be a v2.0 feature if the project gains traction.<p>I love reading Kindle and iBooks on my iPad and it&#x27;s fantastic that I can now access Wikipedia with the same readability features. You should definitely continue to make improvements, from tables to justification. Keep adding more integration with Wikidata. Maybe allow users to treat any Wikipedia article like an e-book by enabling notes, bookmarking, highlighting etc. I know it&#x27;s hard to deal with ever changing content but maybe let the user save a specific version with highlight&#x2F;notes to the iPad (and enable cloud sync).
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rakoo将近 11 年前
&gt; it was clear from the beginning that using Wikipedia means reading articles,<p>&gt; The most important use case for Wikipedia is filling the search field and choosing the correct search result.<p>See ? That&#x27;s why your redesign will never _ever_ be even considered by the Wikimedia team: <i>The most important use case for Wikipedia is editing content</i>.<p>Wikipedia has become what it is and lives because every single human can bring its knowledge and share it with other humans. The Wikimedia (and Wikipedia) team isn&#x27;t involved in editing content: it &quot;merely&quot; hosts the application. It&#x27;s up to us, the humans from everywhere, to fill Wikipedia with our knowledge, and it&#x27;s up to you, the UX&#x2F;UI designers, to make sure we have the best experience while doing it, so it doesn&#x27;t feel clunky&#x2F;difficult&#x2F;unpleasant. If you remove the <i>edit</i> ability, you effectively kill Wikipedia.<p>Please stop this. (At least we agree on one point: there are too many attempts at redesigns, and too little work done on actually important projects[0])<p>[0] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Wikipedia:VisualEditor</a>
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wolfgke将近 11 年前
If you like to use German names, please observe that &quot;Das Referenz&quot; is not correct German (for native German &quot;Das Referenz&quot; sounds like the German spoken by less able Turkish immigrants, especially when combined with an accent). &quot;Referenz&quot; is a female noun - thus &quot;Die Referenz&quot; is correct German.
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zdw将近 11 年前
Apparently the app lays down ads on Wikipedia&#x27;s content unless you cough up $3 or $5.<p>That sounds questionable at best to me.
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currysausage将近 11 年前
<i>&gt; Let’s get this straight: UI-wise, Wikipedia teleports its audience into the year 2004.</i><p>Yep, and it feels <i>wonderful.</i>
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model-m将近 11 年前
I&#x27;m getting tired of young designers who use things like &quot;this feels so 2004&quot; as an insult, and then proceed to reinvent the mistakes of the past.
ulfw将近 11 年前
What&#x27;s this thing of using German words or expressions wrongly lately? No, it&#x27;s not uuuuber. It&#x27;s Über. And hell no it&#x27;s not &#x27;Das Referenz&#x27; either, it&#x27;s &#x27;Die Referent&#x27;. And while I&#x27;m at it, a Wiener Schnitzel surely isn&#x27;t a hot dog (hello American fast food chain!). Might as well call a chicken soup &#x27;hamburger&#x27; while you&#x27;re at it...
Mithaldu将近 11 年前
Besides the terrible and pointless abuse of &quot;Das&quot;, i find myself amazed that these people purport to be interested in typography, use the article about Gutenberg as their header, and then fail to use &quot;text-align: justify;&quot; as the default for paragraphs.<p>Edit: On reading further, i find that they did consider it, but decided against providing something that looks great and is helpful to the reader in 99.99999% of all cases, because the remaining 0.00001% don&#x27;t look perfect. Instead they opt for a solution that is decidedly mediocre² in <i>all</i> cases. Brilliant.<p>² Note how in the header, Buchprodukti-on is hyphened very awkwardly, while Buchdrucks, a prime candidate, isn&#x27;t at all.
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michaelmior将近 11 年前
Looks awesome! Not sure I love the colour scheme, but overall a huge improvement. Unfortunately I&#x27;m an Android user. Hope to see this come there sometime soon :)
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shittyanalogy将近 11 年前
Wikipedia is a tool not an app. Tools are designed to be useful not beautiful. Wikipedia extremely useful as is. Any significant change must be a large leap in usefulness to overcome the burden of having to re-teach hundreds of millions of people how to use the tool. Having a specific platform with a unique interface is counter productive at best.<p>Wikipedia is not stuck in 2004, it&#x27;s not stuck anywhere. It continues to grow, flourish and be useful to hundreds of millions of people over all sorts of connections and on all sorts of devices.<p>Thinking how much better wikipedia would be if it were beautiful is like thinking how much better your hammer would be if it were beautiful.
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DrinkWater将近 11 年前
Whats with the Obsession for the German word &quot;Das&quot;? It&#x27;s also wrong in this case.
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Noctem将近 11 年前
Am I the only one who immediately thought of vas deferens upon reading the name?
3rd3将近 11 年前
<a href="https://d262ilb51hltx0.cloudfront.net/max/1200/1*YDjL7m1JuPWqa-k1JnVO4w.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;d262ilb51hltx0.cloudfront.net&#x2F;max&#x2F;1200&#x2F;1*YDjL7m1JuPW...</a><p>I consider that as a feature. I don’t mind text in 7pt on a small screen if it allows me to find more quickly what I’m looking for.
mauricesvay将近 11 年前
Every Wikipedia &quot;redesigns&quot; miss the essence of Wikipedia. Of course a better reading experience is desirable. But the goal of Wikipedia is to allow people to share their knowledge by contributing. If a redesign fails to address both sides of the experience, it is probably not a good redesign.
flohofwoe将近 11 年前
Apps feel so 2008 ;) I was slightly interested until I realised that this project is an iOS app, not a web page. Isn&#x27;t one of Wikipedia&#x27;s most powerful ideas to make knowledge available to everyone? Other then that, yeah, the least thing Wikipedia needs is a hipster redesign.
skrebbel将近 11 年前
Is there edit functionality? If not, it&#x27;s not even remotely &quot;Wikipedia redesigned&quot;. More like a personal wikicontent bot.<p>That said, if it does, I want it. Please port to everywhere.
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lcnmrn将近 11 年前
Is this just a WebView with a custom UserScript loaded? I don&#x27;t have an iPad to test it out.