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Solar plant has generated “supercritical” steam

188 点作者 roberthahn将近 11 年前

12 条评论

mmaunder将近 11 年前
This is important because it increases generator efficiency.<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercritical_fluid#Supercritical_fluid_in_power_generation" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Supercritical_fluid#Supercritic...</a><p>Supercritical fluid in power generation<p>The efficiency of a heat engine is ultimately dependent on the temperature difference between heat source and sink (Carnot cycle). To improve efficiency of power stations the operating temperature must be raised. Using water as the working fluid, this takes it into supercritical conditions.[20] Efficiencies can be raised from about 39% for subcritical operation to about 45% using current technology.[21] Supercritical water reactors (SCWRs) are promising advanced nuclear systems that offer similar thermal efficiency gains. Carbon dioxide can also be used in supercritical cycle nuclear power plants, with similar efficiency gains.[22] Many coal-fired supercritical steam generators are operational all over the world, and have enhanced the efficiency of traditional steam-power plants.
quink将近 11 年前
&gt; The $5.68 million research program is supported by the Australian Renewable Energy Agency and is part of a broader collaboration with Abengoa Solar, the largest supplier of solar thermal electricity in the world.<p>Australian Renewable Energy Agency (ARENA). Let&#x27;s see what the first Abbott budget had to offer up on this matter:<p>&gt; Finance Minister Mathias Cormann confirmed yesterday that the Australian Renewable Energy Agency (ARENA) will be discontinued in the 2014-15 Budget.<p>Fun times, Australia. What fun!
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abdullahkhalids将近 11 年前
Please keep in mind that efficiency in itself does not mean much. The variable you have to optimize is cost per unit of energy.<p>Supercritical steam is useful for fossil fuel generation because it is relatively easy to make closed off systems which can withstand high temperatures&#x2F;pressures. The optimum for solar power might lie at the much lower temperature. Why? Because the cost of solar array as a function of desired temperature rises much faster than that of a fossil fuel generator.
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Sniffnoy将近 11 年前
Can anyone explain just what it means for the steam to be &quot;supercritical&quot;? The article doesn&#x27;t seem to have explained it at all.
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keypusher将近 11 年前
That&#x27;s really great but the unsolved hurdle in solar power is energy storage. You can generate a large amount of energy on bright, sunny days but what happens at night when people go home and turn on their lights, television, and computers? Without a way to offer on-demand energy, solar will never be able to replace traditional coal and gas-fired plants. Wind power does fare better throughout the day, but is still subject to the whims of the weather. The big piece of the puzzle still to be solved is large scale battery&#x2F;storage technology.
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pinkskip将近 11 年前
On the other hand Abbott&#x27;s government in their recent budget announced cuts to CSIRO and Clean Technology Innovation Program. Go Figure!
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jeffdavis将近 11 年前
&quot;The $5.68 million research program...&quot;<p>It struck me how tiny the amount of money involved here is. Let&#x27;s say this engineering effort was a one one-thousandth step along the way to developing the technology into a major energy alternative. Then that would be, what, $5B?<p>Perhaps I&#x27;m overestimating the significance of this discovery.
knowtheory将近 11 年前
I&#x27;m unclear on why supercritical steam is important for electrical generation. Anybody happen to know?<p>Reading through <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercritical_steam_generator" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Supercritical_steam_generator</a> indicates that Benson boilers are more fuel efficient (and perhaps less prone to explosion), but reduction in amount of fossil fuels used to turn a turbine seems to be sort of a moot point here.<p>Would super critical steam generation mean a solar plant can produce more electricity? Or that a supercritical steam generating solar plant is cheaper to operate?
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Gustomaximus将近 11 年前
Does &#x27;supercritical&#x27; steam have any storage benefit? Or is it more efficient use of the solar energy? I ask as I read some articles about using a similar focused mirrors to create molten salt which then could keep solar energy running after the sun went down, one of the major drawbacks of solar.<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_thermal_energy#Molten_salt_storage" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Solar_thermal_energy#Molten_sal...</a>
achivetta将近 11 年前
Thinking aloud: could one build a combination fossil fuel and solar steam-powered turbine? When the sun is out, you use (supercritical) steam as they describe being able to generate. If the sun goes away, you feed the same turbine with steam generated with fossil fuels. You could use same turbine, condenser, etc but just switch the heat source (or use both) as the environmental conditions change.
rail2rail将近 11 年前
Amazing that even our most cutting edge power generation schemes are still just steam engines under the hood.
dang将近 11 年前
Url changed from <a href="http://sciencealert.com.au/news/20140506-25618.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;sciencealert.com.au&#x2F;news&#x2F;20140506-25618.html</a>, which points to this.
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