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The Only Way To Get Girls into STEM (Boys Too)

46 点作者 peterb将近 11 年前

9 条评论

Spooky23将近 11 年前
You need to make it part of play. Make it fun.<p>Computers were fun to me because I played games and was motivated to maximize the meager capabilities of my IBM XT, and wanted to cheat in games. So I learned all sorts of things there.<p>In computer class, there was no exploration, no fun. Oregon Trail was cool, but didn&#x27;t capture the imagination.<p>I hated Math in school for many years, but my grandfather tutored me. Then I discovered puzzles and how to apply math to problems that had some relevance to me.
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return0将近 11 年前
I don&#x27;t think that&#x27;s it. The differences in percentages between men and women in STEM are just too big to attribute them to &quot;early conditioning&quot; anymore, esp. after so many years of campaining [1]. Either men are masochists and choose jobs that are &quot;not fun&quot;, or men find STEM more fun than women. I believe, at least in Europe, there is no lack of exposure to STEM subjects.<p>The idea of interwoving them sounds a little bit silly: a sci-fi text will bore a student who is literature-oriented in the same way that a mathematical model of romance will sound cheesy to a math nerd.<p>1. <a href="http://techpageone.dell.com/business/study-women-stem-careers/#.U6m4Nfna58E" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;techpageone.dell.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;study-women-stem-career...</a>
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bsdetector将近 11 年前
I have a controversial view of this. That is, why are so many men forced or pressured to go into a STEM career? This is the exact same question, just framed from the perspective that there are plenty of other jobs that pay well enough and are easier.<p>Computer science for instance is sitting behind a desk all day every day more or less constantly using your brain and concentrating. This is kind of a bad choice of occupation even though it appeals to some and has some upsides.<p>We know from the &quot;pay gap&quot; that women&#x27;s lower pay is balanced by fewer hours, shorter commute, better environment, and other benefits of that kind; there&#x27;s essentially no actual discrimination for the same work. This makes me wonder whether women are choosing this result, or whether men are steered away from working easier, less well-paying jobs.<p>It could be that women aren&#x27;t going into STEM in equal numbers simply because they have subjectively better choices available. If that&#x27;s the case, then programs to equalize the numbers will doubly discriminate against men by being forced into it in the first place and then getting less compensation in the second.
doctorfoo将近 11 年前
It really all starts with Lego IMO. Give all children male&#x2F;female a box of Lego on their first birthday. Either they&#x27;ll take to it or they won&#x27;t. Problem solved!
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Pxtl将近 11 年前
I don&#x27;t think Lego can be blamed for Lego Friends. They made gender-neutral lego toys for years and years, and never made the kind of spectacular traction they got with girls through Lego Friends.
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detcader将近 11 年前
<i>Our society markets cultural gender references to the extent that we instill into girls a dislike of “traditionally male” interests from early on.</i><p>So could one say that we <i>do</i> need to focus on girls, to the extent that we recognize the socialization they receive in a society where gender roles are a thing? I agree with the article in general -- though I don&#x27;t see anything wrong with programs for girls who have already found themselves teenaged and without the resources to get the necessary programming&#x2F;STEM experience, and&#x2F;or being uncomfortable around teenage boys in a field that the boys have been taught is their turf.<p>The media should promote some more female STEM role models. It would make up for the years of degredation and exclusion of women in STEM on TV, in the movies, etc -- especially in kid&#x27;s media, where girls and women are usually token side-characters when they aren&#x27;t princesses (see reelgirl.com for thorough documentation). It&#x27;ll never happen, of course, despite that it would hurt no one, because the necessary critical thinking, along with the knowledge of women&#x27;s history, to keep ourselves from shouting &quot;gender bias!!!&quot; at anything helping women succeed, is absent.
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collyw将近 11 年前
I really don&#x27;t see the need to get more women in tech. Its obvious from school age that it just doesn&#x27;t interest them as much. You never hear of the need to get more male nurses, or primary teachers and that is generally not viewed as a problem.<p>Edit: I stand corrected, apparently there are big movements to get males into the professions I mentioned. Just that I never heard about these movements.
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eroo将近 11 年前
There are two problems that too often seem to be conflated as a single issue: (1) we need more STEM students&#x2F;workers, because they will build the future, and (2) there is persistent discrimination (notably sexism) in some of the sub-specialties that can&#x27;t be tolerated.<p>Is there a reason to suspect that tackling both of these at the same time (e.g., demographic specific initiatives) yields significant benefit over alternatives?
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paxtonab将近 11 年前
I think focusing on children is the right way to tackle this issue. Per the author&#x27;s point she works in an environment with an equal mix of male&#x2F;female. Teaching kids from an early age that their gender doesn&#x27;t limit the career they pursue will make this more the norm than not.
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