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Airbnb Political Campaign [video]

34 点作者 murtali将近 11 年前

9 条评论

bunkat将近 11 年前
This video is pretty disingenuous in my opinion - it appears this woman remains in the home when people rent out a room (such that she share experiences with them according to the video). Looking through listings in NYC, this is not the common case at all - it&#x27;s actually expected that a unit rented through Airbnb will be empty during your stay.<p>It&#x27;s also getting more common that people are purchasing real estate for the sole purpose of renting it out through Airbnb. When I stayed in NYC via Airbnb, I never even met the owner of the unit (keys were dropped off at a coffee shop across the street) and it was very obvious that nobody ever lived in the unit.<p>I also have a problem with the tone of the video - &quot;_I_ should be able to do this because it is a good thing for _me_.&quot; What about everyone else that lives in the building? They never signed up to live in a hotel. As a condo owner myself, I don&#x27;t want random people that haven&#x27;t been screened getting access to my otherwise secure building. I don&#x27;t want to have to pay for any damage that they cause and I don&#x27;t want to deal with any of the association rules that they break (noise regulations, pet regulations, parking, etc). While Airbnb might be great for the people renting out their home, it&#x27;s a sum negative for everyone else legally living in the building.
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JohnTHaller将近 11 年前
Funny that they aren&#x27;t mentioning the 983 rentals in Manhattan that rent out the entire apartment, nearly all of which are illegal (any without a proper bed and breakfast license). Compare that number to the 967 private room and shared room listings in Manhattan, most of which - while not violating state law - are operating in violation of their lease. So, Airbnb is just glossing over the fact that the vast majority of their rentals in NYC are illegal. It&#x27;s also interesting that they make no mention of the fact that their insurance policy only covers the renters personal possessions... not the building, common areas, appliances, etc.
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crazypyro将近 11 年前
Wish the site would explain what their goal is beyond &quot;New Yorkers want Airbnb&quot;. As someone who hasn&#x27;t been keeping up with the latest news, I have no idea what even prompted this campaign and, as such, it makes the call to action pretty weak from my point of view. There&#x27;s no FAQ explaining what is happening in NY or anything like that, just a page that lists facts which I&#x27;m sure were specifically picked out to paint the right light, while completely ignoring any of the arguments from the other side (e.g. neighbor troubles, parking troubles, etc).
kchoudhu将近 11 年前
Had a good laugh when I saw these posters on the subway (D) this morning on the way to a doctor&#x27;s appointment. When a business gets on the bullhorn to tell you that they&#x27;re a net positive for society, it&#x27;s pretty much a given that there&#x27;s something fishy going on in the background.<p>I&#x27;m not outright calling them scumbags right now, but I sure as heck will be doing a lot more research on the claims they&#x27;re making about the effects they&#x27;re having on my community.
chimeracoder将近 11 年前
&gt; &quot;I have been living in this apartment for 34 years&quot;<p>If she&#x27;s in lower Manhattan, I&#x27;d bet almost anything her apartment is rent-stabilized (and I <i>think</i> she&#x27;s been here long enough to even have a rent-controlled apartment, potentially, though she might have missed the cutoff by a few years).<p>The bulk of the <i>legal</i> debate around Airbnb has nothing to do with rent-regulated apartments; it&#x27;s the fact that in NYC, short-term subleases are illegal, period. (Most subleases are also violations of the original lease, though that&#x27;s secondary).<p>The bulk of the <i>economic</i> debate is around the practical implications. If you&#x27;re a renter (not owner) in NYC and renting out your apartment on Airbnb, one of two things is happening, economically:<p>1) You pay sub-market rent due to rent regulations (control or stabilization), and are making money off of this disparity between your rent and market rent. You are pocketing money that, if you were in a non-regulated apartment, would go to your landlord. (And since subletting regulated apartments is illegal, he will evict you and find a tenant to pay full price[0])<p>2) You are making additional money on a market rent, which essentially means that the rent you are paying is too low (from the perspective of the owner), and it will go up next year.<p>If I can make $200&#x2F;week on my apartment (hypothetically) and my landlord knows that, he will simply raise my rent by $800&#x2F;month when my lease is up for renewal. In either case, money eventually flows towards the property owner, whether this convergence happens immediately or with a slight delay. This has nothing to do with the regulation; it&#x27;s just the basic economics of rent at play.<p>[0] The law in NYC is obviously incredibly complicated, but that&#x27;s the eventual result.<p><i>EDIT</i>: Fixed typo: should have been $800&#x2F;month ($200&#x2F;week for four weeks).
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Irishsteve将近 11 年前
You can&#x27;t ipo when one of your popular products is questionable legally.<p>That said it&#x27;s cheaper for me to stay in a Sheraton in Times Square than use Airbnb (which I usually use when traveling).
curmudgeon224将近 11 年前
and so the astroturfing begins...
japhyr将近 11 年前
This is one of the best arguments I&#x27;ve seen recently supporting airbnb. However, I&#x27;d be curious to see how these numbers would be affected by removing all the undesirable airbnb arrangements - the ones where people are causing hell or even nuisances for their neighbors, the ones where people are turning long-term rental units into under-the-table short term rentals, etc.
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kbar13将近 11 年前
holy crap it&#x27;s really hard to read that subheader. Contrast, please!