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Uncharged phones, laptops to be banned on US-bound flights

64 点作者 ferno将近 11 年前

20 条评论

yason将近 11 年前
Since when has the angle of terrorist attack shifted back to blowing up planes instead of flying them into strategic targets?<p>A laptop with a fully charged battery can cause a lot more havoc over the Atlantic ocean than one with the drained battery. Presumably you could bring in a couple of extra batteries as well, because it&#x27;s going to be a long flight.<p>If they&#x27;re worried about someone building a bomb into the insides of a laptop that you can&#x27;t turn on, then hasn&#x27;t that been pretty much the core of airport security since its inception -- and pretty much a problem solved to all practical extents since several decades ago?<p>I mean, that&#x27;s why they&#x27;ve been scanning all cabin baggage for decades to see if there are guns inside radios or tanks of interesting liquids inside some suitable item. They&#x27;ve been looking at the x-rays of laptops for twenty years, and now they suddenly start worrying about bombs being built into one?<p>And why aren&#x27;t they worried about the cargo baggage which also contains electronic devices that are potentially uncharged? If they can spot bombs in the electronics in your big baggages without checking if they boot up, then why can&#x27;t they do that for your cabin bags?<p>Unlike water bottles that you can dispose, this is going to be a big problem. You just don&#x27;t leave your laptop or phone at some airport: you simply don&#x27;t fly.<p>This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and the sickness spreads to airports outside US. This means we soon can&#x27;t fly with uncharged electronics in Europe either because the same security gates can allow someone to board a flight the USA.<p>I&#x27;m just wondering who is it that benefits from all this? Where does the money go, who are the people who can push these endless rules and regulations for their own gain because there sure as hell isn&#x27;t a gain for anyone else?
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gkoberger将近 11 年前
Clearly it has nothing to do with the device being charged, but rather eliminating an excuse as to why the device doesn&#x27;t have the ability to be powered on. (Allegedly proving it&#x27;s a real device, and not a bomb being made to look like a laptop or phone.)<p>That being said: <a href="http://xkcd.com/651/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;xkcd.com&#x2F;651&#x2F;</a>
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irons将近 11 年前
Despite appearing the New Zealand Herald, the story comes with a byline from the Daily Mail, which, for a story related to terrorism, reduces its credibility to zero.<p>To pick an example from today: <a href="http://tompride.wordpress.com/2014/07/06/daily-mail-journalist-busted-posing-as-muslim-extremist-to-stir-up-hatred/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;tompride.wordpress.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;07&#x2F;06&#x2F;daily-mail-journali...</a>
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x1798DE将近 11 年前
From what I remember, Firewire used to have direct hardware access to the RAM. Does the iOS lightning charger have something similar?<p>I may be paranoid, but I could imagine the TSA offering little charging stations so you can get enough juice to turn the phone on, and from there it&#x27;s a short leap to imagine that the other side of that &quot;charger&quot; is going to be something that sucks down as much information as they can from the phone.
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mstolpm将近 11 年前
I always assumed the x-ray machines would show operators if a phone or notebook seems to be tampered&#x2F;modified. If looking at a boot screen makes the process more secure, we should really be concerned by the airport security in general.
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Mvandenbergh将近 11 年前
My guess is that they have intelligence that someone is working very hard to do something that I&#x27;ve long worried someone would do, which is to make explosives look like the cells in Li-on batteries on x-rays.<p>If you look at an x-ray of a laptop or tablet, it&#x27;s obvious where the batteries are, they&#x27;re regular shaped objects much denser than the circuitry in the rest of the device.<p>If you mixed explosives with something to make them denser to x-rays (so that they look like lithium masses) and shaped them to look right, you would avoid the only really effective screening tool available. If you can do that, then sealing them and cleaning off residues to keep from setting off explosive vapour detectors would be trivial.<p>This way, they can verify that at least some of the batteries in the device are real. It still wouldn&#x27;t prevent someone replacing some of the cells with explosive and wiring the rest to give the right voltage but less capacity but doing that would require custom battery controllers which is another step up in sophistication. Every step up in sophistication is an opportunity to intercept terror networks.
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stcredzero将近 11 年前
How about taking out the guts of a 17&quot; Dell XPS laptop and connecting its screen to the insides of a Sony Vaio ultrabook or a Macbook Air? That would give you over a quart of volume in which to pack contraband.
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bogrollben将近 11 年前
Tomorrow&#x27;s headlines: Passengers forced to crap in a bag to prove they aren&#x27;t hiding explosives.
fit2rule将近 11 年前
If everyone on the plane has their working cell phone on, then thats more data that can be collected during the flight .. over international waters .. from all of the targets of most interest (those moving between countries).<p>Honestly I won&#x27;t even be mad if this were the case.
izacus将近 11 年前
Well, good thing that after long days of traveling we never arrive at the airport with any of our electronic devices empty -_-<p>Also... does anyone know how many people were caught trying to smuggle explosives on a plain until now?
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shmerl将近 11 年前
This is getting increasingly stupid.
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watwut将近 11 年前
It is supposed to be easier to put a bomb inside Phones and Samsung Galaxy then into any other kind of box? Is here anyone skilled in bomb making willing to explain?
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crishoj将近 11 年前
Rationale being? – Validate the integrity of the device from looking at the screen? – Obtain an electronic record of the device entering the country?
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Mandatum将近 11 年前
Wouldn&#x27;t this be in relation to scanning&#x2F;reading data on the devices rather than explosives? Having to charge a phone or laptop would increase time taken for processing as you&#x27;ll need to charge the item momentarily whilst you interface with it.. I highly doubt they open up phones&#x2F;laptops to connect directly to the HDD..
turar将近 11 年前
Now <i>someone</i> just needs to setup autonomous charging stations next to security checkpoints and rake in the dough.
mootothemax将近 11 年前
This makes me wonder: what if terrorists start attacking the screening&#x2F;security areas themselves?<p>They&#x27;ve already succeeded in making air travel vastly more painful than it has any real right to be.<p>I can only imagine the chaos if an extra, pre-security-area screening is introduced.
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splike将近 11 年前
I don&#x27;t understand, what has the phone being charged got to do with anything?
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wardb将近 11 年前
I feel so safe now everybody sitting in my plane have charged iPhone&#x27;s &amp; Galaxy&#x27;s.<p>Always expected that people who &#x27;loaned&#x27; my iOS lightning charger where terrorist.
jokoon将近 11 年前
well just plug its charger and turn it on...
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twobits将近 11 年前
I really really need to see your private data. ..Fascist state par excellence. ..Unfortunately, it exports its &quot;democracy&quot; all around.