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Kindle Unlimited

245 点作者 zeratul将近 11 年前

41 条评论

jaysonelliot将近 11 年前
I&#x27;m very disturbed by the steady erosion of ownership that has been happening for the past few years. Subscription models are an attractive way to get some digital content for a low price, whether it&#x27;s music, software, movies, or books—but the internet has a notoriously short memory, and I fear that we&#x27;re condemning ourselves to becoming cultural goldfish.<p>I have books and records from my youth that sit on my shelf and are there for me any time I want to revisit them. Heck, I even have software from back then because I never got rid of my Apple II.<p>Of course, there are emulators, and Spotify probably has 60%-70% of the records that are in my collection, and I can find A Wrinkle in Time on the Kindle. But how long is that guaranteed to be the case? And how can I be sure that the digital simulacrum are really the same as the originals, if the originals are gone?<p>For the moment, it&#x27;s an easy answer—just don&#x27;t use the subscription services, and keep owning things. But will that always be an option? Why should ownership continue to be an option ten, twenty, or thirty years from now, when it&#x27;s so much more attractive to companies to rent their products to you for a constant stream of monthly income?<p>Will books end up getting unskippable &quot;updates,&quot; or even being deleted at the whim of the publishers or Amazon one day?
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swanson将近 11 年前
I love the idea, but the selection is not good enough (for me) yet. I keep an Amazon wishlist as a &quot;reading queue&quot; and none of the 60 books (technical, business, pop-psych) in it were available on Kindle Unlimited.<p>I usually buy 2-3 Kindle books a month at around $9&#x2F;per, so I would definitely use this service if the selection improves. I kind of wonder if Amazon could get away with charging $9&#x2F;month for any book they have and just cash-in on folks that &quot;spend&quot; less than that a month.
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kenny_r将近 11 年前
Very saddened by this:<p><pre><code> We&#x27;re sorry. Kindle Unlimited is currently only available for US customers. Please visit us again when it is available in your country.</code></pre>
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mrt0mat0将近 11 年前
To all the &quot;this is just a 10 dollar library card&quot;, I ask you this: if library books are the way to go, why do people buy endless amounts of books from amazon. Amazon became successful by selling books. Audible is another successful company that offers a feature that according to you, can be achieved at a library. Clearly libraries are missing something or else we&#x27;d be using them more. Maybe it&#x27;s one click instant access. Maybe it&#x27;s the larger selection, or that lack of having to wait. Regardless, it&#x27;s not the same.
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hospadam将近 11 年前
Can anyone offer any guidance on the audiobook aspect of this? What is a &quot;Kindle book with narration&quot;? If I&#x27;m an audible customer... doesn&#x27;t this seem like a far better deal? Their page seems very light on details for audiobooks.<p>Edit: I just found a link that includes Kindle Unlimited books with Narration: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&amp;node=9630682011" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;b?ie=UTF8&amp;node=9630682011</a>
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fleshgolem将近 11 年前
To anyone complaining about country restrictions:<p>Selling books is actually quite the complicated matter in some countries. At least in Germany you are not allowed to sell a book at a price of your choice (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed_book_price_agreement" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Fixed_book_price_agreement</a>)<p>It can be pretty fucking annoying to have these laws in place (they do have their merits, but... that&#x27;s a completely different debate), but I can understand Amazon not having worked out all the legal issues to go worldwide with this
Tloewald将近 11 年前
Given that Amazon royally screws independent authors (not being a publisher, I can&#x27;t speak to whether they screw larger publishers too) who want to price their works about $9.99 (if you&#x27;re after a vertical market, Amazon hates you) I can only imagine they&#x27;ll extend the screwing to authors who won&#x27;t also make their works available via Unlimited.<p>(How do they screw us? They cap the 70% less download fee royalty at the $9.99 level. In order to make more than $7 (less download fee) per sale, you need to price a book at over $20. So if I sell a $20 book on Amazon, BN, and iBooks -- I get twice as much from BN and iBooks as I do from Amazon. To make the same royalty from Amazon, I need to charge $40, but Amazon won&#x27;t let me do that. So I pulled my book from Amazon and revenues <i>increased</i>.)
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ryanklee将近 11 年前
If I have a digital copy, it&#x27;s important for me to have a physical copy, as well.<p>At different times, I prefer different media.<p>Until I can buy a book and get a digital version for either free or for a (very) small added fee, I&#x27;m just not getting on board with kindles (or whatever e-reader device).<p>Amazon <i>did</i> roll out some version of this book+ebook service a few months ago, but it included such a small number of volumes that it was virtually worthless.
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ghshephard将近 11 年前
Perhaps my reading behavior is atypical - but &quot;Hyperion&quot;, &quot;I Robot&quot;, &quot;Ringworld&quot;, &quot;Stranger in a Strange Land&quot;, &quot;Dune&quot; - none of the books I read were in the Kindle Unlimited List, and they were all in the Vancouver Public Library.<p>I love the concept - but I need at least a 50% hit rate on the books I read before i&#x27;ll be willing to pay $120&#x2F;year to use it.
lukev将近 11 年前
Well, I looked up a small handful of books I have been interested in reading next, and while all are available on Kindle, none are on the Unlimited program.<p>Looks like I&#x27;ll be giving this one a pass.
WhatsName将近 11 年前
Can someone explain to me, whats the difference between Kindle Unlimited and Amazon Prime[1]?<p>[1] <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/?docId=1000739811&amp;ref=primedp_koll" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;gp&#x2F;feature.html&#x2F;?docId=1000739811&amp;ref=...</a>
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unicornporn将近 11 年前
So let&#x27;s see... 10 bucks for books, 10 bucks for Spotify, 10 bucks for Netflix. That&#x27;s $360 a year. It kind of adds up, doesn&#x27;t it? :)<p>When I was little I went to the local library. There I had unlimited access to movies, music and books, for free. Sure, it&#x27;s hard to compare the music collection to Spotify. But at the time I was content. And I actually think I&#x27;d still prefer both the movie collection and the book collection of the library (especially as my native tongue is Swedish).
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baddox将近 11 年前
It looks like I was incorrect when I predicted that the ebooks would only be available on true Kindle devices (and not for example the Kindle app on iPad).<p>Unfortunately it looks like the Lending Library (which comes with Prime membership) still only works on true Kindle devices. I wonder if this is a licensing issue, or just a deliberate choice on Amazon&#x27;s part.<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1000739811" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;gp&#x2F;feature.html?docId=1000739811</a>
edent将近 11 年前
&quot;We&#x27;re sorry. Kindle Unlimited is currently only available for US customers. Please visit us again when it is available in your country.&quot;<p>That&#x27;s ok Amazon. My local library lets me check out as many ebooks as I can read. And audio books. And paper books.<p>Total cost? FREE<i>!<p></i>via taxation which works out as £13 per year (budget is £8 million, population is 650k)
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makmanalp将近 11 年前
This service would have the extremely interesting effect of replacing itself with all your reading sources. Consider: Given a choice between buying a book elsewhere and reading it here, you&#x27;re going to choose the latter because it&#x27;s free. But also, if you normally read a book per month, since you&#x27;re paying for it whether you read or not, you&#x27;d have to basically read more from here to be able to make it &quot;worth it&quot;. So given a choice between buying a book elsewhere or reading a <i>different</i> one here, you&#x27;re still going to lean towards reading it here. Pretty smart!
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phaus将近 11 年前
I think Amazon&#x27;s always done a pretty good job of rolling out new services, but this is a train wreck. About 3 minutes after I signed up for the free trial, I cancelled it. 99% of the books are the same type of low-quality, spammy nonsense that I was already getting free through Prime.<p>I was hoping for something along the lines of Safari Books, only with a much wider range of categories. As hard as it might be to imagine, the selection of books here is far far worse than Netflix&#x27;s selection of movies. That&#x27;s pretty fucking sad.
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programminggeek将近 11 年前
I think the audiobooks part is going to be more interesting than the rest. I spend a lot of time listening to podcasts, so listening to unlimited audiobooks is something that might be amazing.
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hugh4life将近 11 年前
Hmm... how can you tell which books are available for it?<p>I searched for a philosopher I like to read and none of his books had the &quot;unlimited&quot; indicator... so I don&#x27;t think this is for me.
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bennesvig将近 11 年前
As an author with two books enrolled in KDP select, I didn&#x27;t know they&#x27;d be included in Kindle Unlimited. It will be interesting to see if this has any effect on sales.
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ntaso将近 11 年前
Is this the same as the Lending Library you&#x27;ll get with Prime, where you can get 1 book for free per month if you&#x27;re Prime customer? If so, the offer in Germany is absolutely terrible. I found only 2 books in that library, because they count endless self-published garbage-titles to their library of &quot;600,000+&quot; titles.<p>From the comments here, I assume that the model is similar in the US and 9.99$ is only so cheap, because there&#x27;s mostly junk in the library.
Eleopteryx将近 11 年前
Sadly, I don&#x27;t read nearly enough to justify a $10&#x2F;mo subscription. (This is something I&#x27;d like to improve, but I have ADHD and poor reading comprehension.) This is contrast to a service like Google music that I use nearly every day. I wish there were a cheaper tier with perhaps fewer rentals at a lower price. Based on the current volume of reading that I do, the most I can see myself paying for a subscription is about $3~5&#x2F;mo.
api将近 11 年前
I notice few commenters have brought up the obvious deflationary pressure being brought to bear against authors and publishers here. The same thing has occurred in music and film.<p>In the future is art and literature going to once again be the exclusive province of either those who have taken a implicit vow of poverty or the independently wealthy? Are we seeing the end of the era when a person could actively earn a living doing these things?
samirmenon将近 11 年前
Just as an alternative, the NYPL (which is the New York City public library system) allows you to get a library card, and browse from their online ebook collection, as long as you are a resident of New York state. It&#x27;s a bit of an annoying process, but their large selection makes it worth it.<p><a href="http://www.nypl.org/help/library-card" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nypl.org&#x2F;help&#x2F;library-card</a>
tokenadult将近 11 年前
I signed up for the 30-day free trial, and immediately found books that I&#x27;d like to read that are on long request waiting lists at my friendly county public library. Now I can look up those books any time I like during the next thirty days. I&#x27;ll see whether or not I think there is enough value here to pay ten dollars a month indefinitely to keep this service, but I think I will.
cnaut将近 11 年前
This is also interesting from the cloud storage perspective. Amazon is slowly making personal cloud storage almost irrelevant by providing all these subscription streaming services. You don&#x27;t event have to digitally own something anymore you just rent it and stream it from the cloud. No need to back up the majority of the files you have.
xux将近 11 年前
Looks like Amazon is trying to do to ebooks what Spotify and Netflix have done to music and content.<p>The pricing is interesting. At $9.99, it&#x27;s more than Netflix and the same as Spotify. I&#x27;m not sure if anyone will binge read books the same way people do with the other two services.
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msoad将近 11 年前
I mostly read software and technical books. None of the books I am interested in is in the collection. Maybe the improve the collection later, but for now it&#x27;s cheaper to buy for me.
beauzero将近 11 年前
I think this is good for &quot;candy books&quot; like thrillers, etc. but for books that I want to keep...no. I don&#x27;t care as much about movies but for books...this is not for me.
davidw将近 11 年前
I wonder if you get to keep the notes you make from books in this? Of the last 5 books I&#x27;ve read, only 2 were in this, so I&#x27;m not sure I&#x27;ll sign up.
WalterBright将近 11 年前
It seems that the debut of $10&#x2F;mo Kindle Unlimited was accompanied by the demise of the one per month free Kindle lending library for Prime customers.
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lowlevel将近 11 年前
We&#x27;re sorry. Kindle Unlimited is currently only available for US customers. Please visit us again when it is available in your country. (figured)
grn将近 11 年前
It looks really great! So bad it isn&#x27;t available in Poland. Does anyone know when they will expand to other countries?
fideloper将近 11 年前
How do authors get paid with this? I don&#x27;t imagine a pay per play scheme work like it does with the music industry
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zeroDivisible将近 11 年前
This offer is only available to US customers - I think it&#x27;s worth to reflect that one in the title in here.
wiradikusuma将近 11 年前
Let say I&#x27;m not in the US, what are my options if I&#x27;m interested to subscribe? Will VPN work?
weisser将近 11 年前
This has a ways to go in terms of content before I would actually use it.
tonyblundell将近 11 年前
Does anyone have any info on how royalties will be calculated yet?
epaladin将近 11 年前
Are they making the whole Audible library available through this?
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knerd1将近 11 年前
What does this mean for oyster?
mimighost将近 11 年前
It is like a paid pass to amazon&#x27;s selected digital library.
jwr将近 11 年前
&quot;We&#x27;re sorry. Kindle Unlimited is currently only available for US customers. Please visit us again when it is available in your country&quot;<p>Again.<p>Companies just don&#x27;t learn. This is the Internet. If you sell digital content online, there is no &quot;US customers&quot;. There are exactly two groups of customers: those with credit cards that are willing to pay you and all the rest.<p>This whole idea of segmenting by country is not only outdated, but harmful to business and outright offensive to customers that were not &quot;included&quot; in the &quot;segment&quot; that was &quot;chosen&quot;.<p>Let&#x27;s see, what will those people left outside the door do? Will they wait and &quot;visit us again when it is available in your country&quot;? Surely! They will patiently regularly check the webpage to see whether Amazon has graciously agreed to take their money. Or they&#x27;ll just turn to Bittorrent and get the goods anyway, right now.<p>Anticipating responses: yes, I know, the usual narrative is that it&#x27;s the evil publishers. So what? Amazon fights the publishers on other fronts, why can&#x27;t it arrange for worldwide licensing here?
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