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What I learned from reading 8,000 recruiting messages

110 点作者 leeny将近 11 年前

12 条评论

Jemaclus将近 11 年前
Great analysis, Aline. The positive examples are exactly the kind of emails I'd like to receive. On the other hand, if all recruiters followed this advice, I'd have a harder time rejecting spammy recruiters... So maybe keep this on the down-low? ;)
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wowzer将近 11 年前
As a developer with a fairly interesting background, I've been getting messages from recruiters for years. As Aline's post elucidates, most of the messages are completely impersonal. I had been ignoring these e-mails for years. I then got a message from a recruiter that was really well written and completely geared towards me. I was shocked that someone took the time to actually read my resume. That recruiter got a response from me. He then lined me up with a gig. His approach also got four other people hired at the job he lined me up with.
djb_hackernews将近 11 年前
This was an awesome post and I really enjoyed it. I hope to see more data driven analysis like this in the future. I actually try to respond to every recruiter email I get, even if they are obviously generic (though I have my limits). My one goal is for them to give me a number. I typically thank them, ask them how they found me (specifically what keywords they searched for, etc) and what the salary ranges are for the position. I usually frame it to &quot;ensure I am staying market competitive&quot;. I&#x27;d say 50% of the time I get the dodge one way or the other, 40% of the time they are paying below what I&#x27;d expect to be paid for the position, and 10% is what I&#x27;d expect. Only one time was I surprised by the salaries thrown out and those were positions in NYC. That said, I&#x27;m going to get a little cynical, so be warned.<p>Keeping salaries secret has been a huge tool wielded by hiring managers and HR in order to suppress salaries for a very long time, especially with the way engineers are typically pigeon holed in to broad titles. I don&#x27;t see that changing any time soon, as much as I&#x27;d like too. It&#x27;d solve a number of problems for our profession if that were so. I&#x27;d be interested to see what the differences are from the initial offer when reaching out and what the official offer is if a candidate accepts.<p>I&#x27;m guessing most businesses that use this platform have figured out the optimal number to get responses from recruiting emails and then used any leverage they can get in order to discount the engineers skills and experiences in order to get them in to a lower salary. Unfortunately engineers are notoriously bad negotiators and we start to buy in to their arguments and end up accepting bad deals and we don&#x27;t realize it.<p>But, this is definitely a step in the right direction.
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jisaacstone将近 11 年前
My experience (back when Hired was known as DeveloperAuction) is that most of the &#x27;offers&#x27; I received were completely impersonal and disingenuous.<p>What I mean is that it seems the companies &#x27;bid&#x27; on anyone who met some minimum requirement and relied on the initial phone screen to actually vet the candidate. The three phone screens I had the person on the other end displayed no knowledge of the experience and skills I listed on my profile and one did not even have any preference what division of the company I should work for (was just looking for another somewhat competent software engineer, not caring much beyond that)<p>My point is: personalized messages are more likely to result in a hire BECAUSE the person writing the message knows what they are looking for. Conversely the recruiters I deal with on a regular basis are only looking for a &#x27;python engineer&#x27; or something similar. They could not possibly write a personalized recruiting message.
minimaxir将近 11 年前
&gt; <i>These values come from running a logistic regression on the factors that were most statistically significant. The y-axis represents the standardized value of the coefficients in our regression.</i><p>&quot;Most statistically significant&quot; does not imply that the variables themselves are statistically significant, and it does not imply that the logistic regression itself is accurate (especially since the regression uses only 5 variables). What is the accuracy of the model?<p>The value of the logistic regression coefficient is the log-likelihood of the estimate, <i>not</i> the &quot;Significance of Regression Coefficient&quot;, which is a completely different value altogether (the p-value).
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dezoxir将近 11 年前
Excellent analysis. Great follow up to the <a href="http://blog.alinelerner.com/lessons-from-a-years-worth-of-hiring-data/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.alinelerner.com&#x2F;lessons-from-a-years-worth-of-hi...</a>
gameguy43将近 11 年前
Love this. I wish more recruiters were this data-driven.
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malsheikh将近 11 年前
This is awesome, especially as someone who is new to recruiting in the tech space. Sent to a couple other HR&#x2F;recruiters and they love your posts!
lazyant将近 11 年前
Not sure I understand; the main variable for initial response is salary yet in none of the examples of initial emails salary is mentioned (that&#x27;s my experience as well)
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neom将近 11 年前
I hope every developer reads this.
dropit_sphere将近 11 年前
If I ran a company, I would want to hire this woman.
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acconrad将近 11 年前
TLDR: recruitment letters need to have attached in them with a competitive (at or above average) salary number, personalized to the prospective employee. In other words, actually email the person and be transparent with what you&#x27;re offering.