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Oak Island Money Pit: Unsolved Mystery

243 点作者 trevin将近 11 年前

27 条评论

gwern将近 11 年前
It&#x27;s hard not to read the whole thing and think the people involved were very foolish, and it&#x27;s an example of the lengths to which people can push wishful thinking and confirmation bias and ignore basic arguments like &#x27;how could someone bury treasure in such a difficult to excavate way without anyone noticing them constructing it all, and how did they ever expect to retrieve it?&#x27; For example, we&#x27;re repeatedly told about the scanty traces of things dug up like coconut, and then later this bombshell is dropped:<p>&gt; In 1937, Hedden and his contractors returned to Oak Island. This time the company would encounter intriguing findings. Burrowing down one of the many auxiliary tunnels pock marking the island, the team stumbled upon a number of fascinating items including a miner&#x27;s oil lamp with whale oil and unexploded dynamite at 65 feet.<p>Where on earth did <i>those</i> come from? Are the pirates supposed to have brought <i>dynamite</i> with them a century or two before? This suggests to me that (1) all the previous expeditions and drillings have littered the island with all sorts of equipment and junk, and hence nothing found after the first expedition means much of anything or (2) the flood tunnels and other geological oddities move debris around and that is responsible for the dynamite, in which case there may never have been anything to explain in the first place.<p>&gt; It appears far too simple to dismiss the efforts of respected lawyers, businessmen, doctors, actors and even an esteemed president.<p>Does it now.
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recurrie将近 11 年前
I&#x27;ve spent summers at my family cottage, looking across the water at Oak Island for 40 years, and am always interested when it comes up. I&#x27;ve been on Oak Island and the myth is 100x more interesting than what is there now, the rusting remains of recent exploration efforts.<p>So if a crew of pirates|Incas|freemasons|French Royalty spent the effort to dig elaborate tunnels and traps, where are the remains of their campsites? The middens? The cooking fires? All infrastructure to support a huge constriction project, all with hand tools?<p>Everywhere else from that era you find the garbage that gets left behind - ashes, clay pipes, lost tools, buttons.<p>These particular mysterious builders were not just super skilled, they were also the tidiest contractors known to history.<p>Sadly, the whole story is a mishmash of charlatans, myth, and a lot of basic geology. There&#x27;s no mystery.
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smacktoward将近 11 年前
It would be awesome if they finally got to the bottom and discovered a pile of &quot;E.T.&quot; cartridges for the Atari 2600.
Jun8将近 11 年前
Oh boy, this comes up every few years. I guess the words &quot;unsolved mystery&quot; must excite some specific neural pattern in our brains.<p>It&#x27;s far from the last great unsolved mystery, though, as claimed in the title: I would definitely put (i) deciphering the last part of Kryptos (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptos" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Kryptos</a>), (ii) deciphering the Voynich Manuscript (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Voynich_manuscript</a>), and, if you insist on adding treasure to the equation (iii) the Beale Ciphers (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beale_ciphers" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Beale_ciphers</a>) on any list of unsolved mysteries that fuel the imagination.
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sbov将近 11 年前
The similarity of the history of this island to the history of many software projects I&#x27;ve worked on is amazing.
poslathian将近 11 年前
Worth sharing, google led me to this interesting fellow: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hUrpcxD0uo" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=6hUrpcxD0uo</a><p>He has a surprisingly interesting idea that the shaft of periodic wooden panels may be an ancient viking ship buried vertically.<p>My own vote is for sinkhole + telephone game&#x2F;hype machine.
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TrainedMonkey将近 11 年前
&quot;According to authors Graham Harris and Les MacPhie, Borehole 10X terminated in a cavity carved out of bedrock. Within the stone chamber were what appeared to be a severed hand, a corpse and several treasure chests (2005). Prompted by the video images, the Triton Alliance initiated approximately 10 diving excursions into the subterranean cavern. No treasure was extracted as a result of the divers&#x27; investigations.&quot;<p>Any chance of recovering that video?<p>Personally I thought of something like Nemo&#x27;s underground&#x2F;underwater base. Unfortunately by simply smashing through layers of timber treasure hunters most likely flooded&#x2F;collapsed entire tunnel system.
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JasonFruit将近 11 年前
The article is interesting but painful to read; it&#x27;s as though it was written by a near-illiterate who painstakingly reviewed every letter over and over to eliminate obvious mistakes. Then, when you&#x27;ve survived the pain, you meet the usual suspects: &quot;Who wrote Shakespeare&#x27;s plays?&quot; &quot;Look, the Knights Templar!&quot; &quot;It&#x27;s a Freemason conspiracy!&quot; I wasted my time here.
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brotoss将近 11 年前
Pardon my ignorance but how do we not have the technology to just like ground scan 300ft below the surface around the island and map it out? Like Sonar or something, idk.
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gaoshan将近 11 年前
That pit and the various efforts to &quot;find the treasure&quot; remind me of a father that was spending $15,000 per year on his young daughter&#x27;s softball efforts (coaching, training, traveling) in order to help earn her a scholarship to college. She eventually blew out a knee and her softball career ended before she even finished high school. If only he had instead invested that $15,000 a year himself he would have had her scholarship all taken care of.<p>This pit is like that only with less light at the end of the tunnel.
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Houshalter将近 11 年前
I found this on wikipedia which is interesting:<p>&gt;The appearance of a man-made pit has been attributed partly to the texture of sinkholes: &quot;this filling would be softer than the surrounding ground, and give the impression that it had been dug up before&quot;,[38] and the appearance of &quot;platforms&quot; of rotten logs has been attributed to trees or &quot;blowdowns&quot; falling or washing into the depression.[39] An undetermined pit similar to the description of the early Money Pit had been discovered in the area. In 1949, workmen digging a well on the shore of Mahone Bay, at a point where the earth was soft, found a pit of the following description: &quot;At about two feet down a layer of fieldstone was struck. Then logs of spruce and oak were unearthed at irregular intervals, and some of the wood was charred. The immediate suspicion was that another Money Pit had been found.&quot;[40]
jcrawfordor将近 11 年前
&quot;The Last Great Unsolved Mystery&quot;? Really? I&#x27;ve got a list of a few more and they&#x27;re even restricted to the treasure-and-crime kind. <a href="http://infohost.nmt.edu/~jcrawfor/mysteries.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;infohost.nmt.edu&#x2F;~jcrawfor&#x2F;mysteries.html</a>
Zelphyr将近 11 年前
I kept reading thinking, &quot;Wow, surprised they haven&#x27;t blamed the Freemasons for this!&quot; when, suddenly, &quot;oh, there it is...&quot;<p>Disclaimer: I&#x27;m a Freemason.<p>Disclaimer 2: No, I don&#x27;t know where any treasure is buried. It&#x27;s really not that sexy.
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billyhoffman将近 11 年前
If you enjoy mystery or thriller books, Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child&#x27;s fictional novel Riptide is very enjoyable, and is based in large part on the Oak Island Money Pit legend.<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riptide_(novel)" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Riptide_(novel)</a><p>No fringe conspiracy theories, just good adventure fiction. It&#x27;s one of their non-Pendergast books that worth the read.<p>Oh, and at the bottom of the pit in the book? (rot13)<p>n fjbeq bs qnzbpyrf-yvxr eryvp, znqr bs enqvbnpgvir vevqvhz sebz n pbzrg. Vg jnf ohevrq gb orpnhfr ybbxvat ng vg rkcbfrf lbh gb rabhtu enqf gb xvyy lbh.
ChrisArchitect将近 11 年前
uggh. I thought money pit was a reference to the scam tourist trap businesses that operate &#x27;tours&#x27; to this thing. The worst lamest thing on a family trip to Nova Scotia years ago that we still laugh about. &quot;It was just a hole and a sign!&quot;
wuliwong将近 11 年前
Jeez man, HN what a bunch of curmudgeons. I personally love this stuff, real or not, it is a modern day treasure hunt. How isn&#x27;t that fun???
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piratebroadcast将近 11 年前
I&#x27;d give anything to know what is buried there. I&#x27;ve been fascinated with this since I was a kid.
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theklub将近 11 年前
Did anyone mention the TV show they have out on this now? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Curse_of_Oak_Island" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Curse_of_Oak_Island</a>
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eitally将近 11 年前
while reading this, I kept thinking to myself that while excavation seems an insurmountable task at this time, if things started via a tunnel excavation from the coast that was already 150&#x27; below the surface, then building up from there wouldn&#x27;t necessarily have been a major endeavor at all.
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hiharryhere将近 11 年前
All the contemporary excavators seem to have missed the real treasure. It&#x27;s now a site that has huge tourism potential...Something worth far more in $$ than a few pieces of eight.
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JohnnyDouglas将近 11 年前
Thanks for posting this.<p>I grew up a few hours away from there, I remember hearing about the 1980s efforts on the news at the time and finding it fascinating as any pre-teen boy would. I also feel like we&#x27;re due for some recent maniacs to come along and start the whole fiasco over again.
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yoodenvranx将近 11 年前
I wish some really rich person would just buy this island and pay some construction company a lot of money to excavate the whole thing. It can&#x27;t be that hard to build a sufficiently large hole with modern technology.
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hristov将近 11 年前
Hmm, sounds like the pirate Kidd played a lot of dwarf fortress in his days.
bjcubsfan将近 11 年前
There&#x27;s a treatment of this story on the great podcast Skeptoid. <a href="http://skeptoid.com/mobile/4129" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;skeptoid.com&#x2F;mobile&#x2F;4129</a>
tempodox将近 11 年前
Oh my. I&#x27;m sure they also uncover the true identity of the Loch Ness monster down there.
ccarter84将近 11 年前
Weird this is blocked by corporate firewall...
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OakIslandRobot将近 11 年前
The (Untold) Story of The Oak Island Money Pit<p>The Oak Island Money Pit was constructed by the “powers that be” that were and still are to this day, the secret force that controls the course of mankind on earth. This organization is known as - The “Freemasons”.<p>The story of The Oak Island Money Pit begins in the 1760’s It was conceived by a number of Britain’s high ranking naval officers, who were also Masonic degree members of the Freemasons and belonging to the Masonic “Premier Grand Lodge of England”. These Masons were members of the Whig Party opposed to the next successor to the throne, the unstable King George III. These members were: Washington Shirley, 5th Earl Ferrers – Vice Admiral - Grand Master of the Masonic Lodge – Premier Grand Lodge of England George Anson, Baron Anson – Admiral of the Fleet George Keppel, 3rd Earl of Albemarle - Commander-In-Chief Augustus Keppel, 1st Viscount Keppel – Rear Admiral – Brother to George Keppel William Keppel – Lieutenant-General – Brother to George Keppel George Pocock – Admiral – Commander of the Invasion of Havana and Benjamin Franklin – First Grand Master of Pennsylvania who met in 1760 with the Grand Master of England to discuss their plan.<p>The Mason’s plot originated after King George III’s destruction of the Whig’s political power with his redirection of this power to the Tory Party, and the Mason’s concern of the imminent invasion of England, during the Seven Years’ War, by the joint forces of France and Spain. Spain outlawed all forms of secret organizations, including the Freemasons.<p>The Mason’s plan was to redirect a fortune to the “New World” (North America), to enable the transfer of the Masonic organization, if and when these fears materialized. Their plan entailed the capture of Havana in 1762. Havana’s Morro Castle was the Fort Knox of Spain, holding the South and Central America’s gold supply prior to its shipment to Spain. The invasion of Havana was under the command of George Keppel, with Admiral George Pocock and Keppel’s two brothers Augustus and William Keppel, commanding the actual attack. They were successful with the capture of Havana and Fort Morro and its unprecedented amount of treasure. They also captured a number of the Spanish Fleet, which was needed to accomplish their plan. Accordingly, Admiral Pocock returned to England with the main English fleet carrying a portion of the treasure, while Augustus and William Keppel along with their crew and Masonic engineers all sworn to secrecy, manned the 8 Spanish Galleons and the 2 British Man of War. This treasure was diverted to a small island off the coast of New England and Nova Scotia now called Oak Island.<p>At Oak Island the treasure was buried based on the Masonic “Royal Arch” (Enoch’s Temple) consisting of nine arches going down nine levels by way of a main shaft (The Money Pit) which was dug down to the bedrock. From the ninth level another tunnel was constructed which ran back up to a point above the known water level, roughly 20 feet underground and at this point an enormous cavern was built to hold the treasure. The treasure was carted down the main shaft and placed up into this cavern. To conceal their plot they had the 8 Spanish ships dismantled with all the wooden parts not used in the construction of the shaft, tunnels and cavern burnt and all the metal parts (canons, anchors and bolts) were placed at the bottom of the main shaft. Flood tunnels were built out to the ocean to booby trap any treasure seekers attempts to follow down the main shaft. A large stone was placed at the air lock (8th level) as bait to activate the flooding. This stone had strange engravings on it to entice any unworthy treasure seekers to pause and take the bait (stone) away for deciphering, thus allowing time for the tunnels and main shaft to fill with water and be destroyed forever. The Masons knew exactly by their calculated mark above ground where the treasure cavern below ground was located, and could access it by digging down 20 feet.<p>Once the treasure was secured in the cavern and all the evidence was hidden from the island, it was documented that the Keppels sailed back to England with 2 ships and a small portion of the treasure. They claimed that the remainder of the fleet had sunk in a hurricane on route.<p>The Masons left several markers on the island to relocate the treasure. 1 large triangle or more precisely a crude Sextant 2 drilled holed stones 1 large stone cross These combined markers along with the Star Map are used to cross triangulate and a set degree on the sextant point to the “X” where the cavern is today located.<p>Is the treasure still in this cavern?<p>I believe it was removed in 1795<p>One of the three original discoverers of the Money Pit was Daniel McGinnis, who stated he was drawn to the island when he noticed strange lights appearing on the island just prior to his discovery. These lights were made by the Freemasons when they returned for their treasure. This Masonic party was headed up by George Washington, President of the United States – acting Grand Master of the Washington DC Masons.<p>The treasure’s vast fortune was used, as planned, to further the power of the Freemasons in their new world, with them becoming “The New World Order”.