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Could You See the Curvature of the Earth in This Airport?

71 点作者 gabriel34超过 10 年前

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Theodores超过 10 年前
Getting on for a century ago this &#x27;problem&#x27; was solved:<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_Level_experiment" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Bedford_Level_experiment</a><p>TL;DR - use a theodolite with measurement poles at each end and in the middle. No iphones, laser pens or bowling balls needed. Sometimes it comes down to having the right tools for the job.
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timdierks超过 10 年前
Offer the building&#x27;s super the barometer, if in exchange he&#x27;ll tell you how tall the building is. [1]<p>Did the author of the article not bother to investigate the actual answer?<p>[1] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barometer_question" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Barometer_question</a>
snowwrestler超过 10 年前
Relevant question from Reddit&#x27;s AskScience section (which is heavily moderated and thus very high-quality):<p>&gt; How (if at all) do architects of large buildings deal with the Earth&#x27;s curvature?<p><a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/29jrhq/how_if_at_all_do_architects_of_large_buildings/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;askscience&#x2F;comments&#x2F;29jrhq&#x2F;how_if_at...</a>
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harshpotatoes超过 10 年前
I don&#x27;t like his method of measuring the curvature distance.<p>I think it will be very difficult to align a local to the local tangent of the earth&#x27;s surface. Over a distance of 700m, the earth&#x27;s surface deviates by about 4cm. This means we would have to align our laser to within 50 microradians in order to accurately measure the deviation of the earth&#x27;s surface.<p>Further more, his two beam system is setup using two lasers spaced about 4m apart requires even greater accuracy. Let&#x27;s imagine system 1 is aligned to the local tangent at one end of the terminal (x = 0m), system 2 is aligned to the local tangent 4 m away at x = 4m, and heights of the two beams are measured at the opposite end of the terminal (x = 700 m). The height difference between these two beams will be about 1 micron. If we assume that the beams are large enough that there is no spread in beam size, then each beam is about 3 cm in diameter. This means we need to measure the beam height to better 0.003% accuracy relative to the beam size. I think this will be a very difficult measurement.<p>I think there is a way you could very accurately measure the relative angle between two beams in a larger interferometer and two lasers, but I&#x27;ll have to think about how it would look...<p>Regardless, it&#x27;s always fun to think about this small corrections to our expectations. To be honest, I was a little surprised to think about it, 4cm of deviation over 700m is actually a bit larger than I expected.
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Someone超过 10 年前
One could also use the bowling ball to answer the level vs straight question. Ignoring such nuisances as friction, on a straight floor, a ball let loose would roll towards the center of the hall, and oscillate around it.<p>In practice, it may be possible to somewhat reliably measure a difference in deceleration rolling the ball towards an end of the hall vs towards its center.<p>And of course, if one also has a scale, the weight of the ball can be used to see whether the floor is level.
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idlewords超过 10 年前
&quot;First get a long East-West terminal and see if we can roll a ball all the way to the end of the hallway. There shouldn’t be any Coriolis deflection in that case&quot;<p>The author is confused. That statement would only be true on the Equator. In the northern hemisphere, the ball will always deflect to the right. If I put a pencil on a globe, I can intuitively understand why, sometimes for up to five minutes!
frenchman_in_ny超过 10 年前
No discussion of beam divergence in his calculations?
dredmorbius超过 10 年前
This is really crying out for a follow-up with actual measurements. It would be wonderful if the Atlanta airport authority could arrange for that.<p>A couple of lasers, a couple of levels, 3-4 rulers, and coordinating measurements would do it.
burnte超过 10 年前
I live in ATL and now I very much want to go to the airport at 3am and test this.
KhalilK超过 10 年前
a couple of broken reference links in the article; never forget &quot;<a href="https://&quot;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;&quot;</a> when adding a link.
xSky超过 10 年前
This is very Five-Thrity-Eight-ish, I love it!
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sarciszewski超过 10 年前
Privacy Badger, RequestPolicy, and AdBlock Edge all puked on this Wired page. None of the calculations would load. :(
stansmith超过 10 年前
&quot;The top of the Golden Gate Bridge is almost two inches wider at the top than the base because of the curvature of the Earth&quot;<p><a href="http://datagenetics.com/blog/june32012/index.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;datagenetics.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;june32012&#x2F;index.html</a>
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