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How many Bitcoins does it cost to maintain the Bitcoin network?

33 点作者 polymathist超过 10 年前

7 条评论

patio11超过 10 年前
All of them. Literally. All Bitcoins were created via segniorage. However many billion dollars of market cap as it exists today is the present value of payment for past work in securing the future of the blockchain. The market value [+] doesn&#x27;t come from nowhere - it&#x27;s a transaction fee paid by later adopters to earlier adopters for the privilege of being able to transact on their blockchain.<p>If future prospective adoptees believe that fee is too high, well, it can get renegotiated down in a hurry, and will be.<p>[+] Slight mangling of terms here, since market value is number of coins times last trade price, and that won&#x27;t correspond to the sum of all dollar-denominated capital inflows into Bitcoin.
vijayboyapati超过 10 年前
&quot;Let us be quite clear: if Bitcoin was a cheaper or more efficient transaction method, for-profit organizations such as large payment processors would have forked it long ago and would likely already be using it internally in order to shore up their margins.&quot;<p>This is quite a presumptuous lede. Bitcoin itself has only really been around for 5 years, and of that only entered the public consciousness for about 2. Large payments companies are like all large companies; they tend to be slow, bureaucratic and have to deal with internal politics to get anything done. On top of this, Bitcoin solved a long standing problem in computer science that many people believed was not solvable (Satoshi&#x27;s original post on the cypherpunk list received a lot of skepticism when it was first posted). No large company would have precipitously risked their entire technology stack on something so unproven. Even Gavin Andresen is careful to say Bitcoin is still &quot;in beta&quot;. And only now are some large companies starting to accept bitcoin <i>in payment</i>, which is a much weaker step than replacing their internal payment infrastructure. This stuff takes <i>time</i>, and this cycle of optimism and pessimism seems to repeat itself with every revolutionary technology:<p>T1. New technology X is going to change everything and the world will be amazing!<p>T2 (only short while after T1). Nothing has changed, the world is still the same, X is a failure.<p>...<p>TN: Whoa, we use X a lot now.
Estragon超过 10 年前
<p><pre><code> &gt; if Bitcoin was a cheaper or more efficient transaction method, &gt; for-profit organizations such as large payment processors would have &gt; forked it long ago and would likely already be using it internally in &gt; order to shore up their margins. </code></pre> This guy is clueless. The whole point of bitcoin is that it appeals to people who want a decentralized medium of exchange. It&#x27;s basically useless to large payment processors.
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nazgulnarsil超过 10 年前
The guy doesn&#x27;t grasp the basic premise of PoW schemes. Yes, it costs close to a Bitcoin to make a Bitcoin. That Bitcoin, once created, is a REUSABLE PROOF OF WORK.
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21echoes超过 10 年前
I&#x27;ve been saying this for over a year now -- BitCoin will not succeed because it simply cannot offer competitive transaction fees. Merchants are upset enough by the ~3% they&#x27;re paying to VISA or AmEx on every swipe, they&#x27;re not going to move to a system that costs $30.
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kristianp超过 10 年前
Increased centralisation, due to economies of scale for miners, is bad. Peercoin offers a reward for operating a node (provided you have a balance of Peercoins), due to its proof-of stake (POS) hybrid mining scheme. Bitcoin&#x27;s reward for operating a full node is having access to the network, but you don&#x27;t have any say in what transactions are confirmed unless you run a miner.<p>Peercoin seems better from this point of view, because it provides a method to reward decentralisation. Economically, I have no idea. The POS blocks pay you a % of your balance, inflating the currency, but at a much smaller energy usage ( a fraction of one cpu)
zokier超过 10 年前
A more practical question would be how large are the CO2 emissions of maintaining Bitcoin network.