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Scottish Independence – What Could It Mean for Startups and Tech?

33 点作者 pow-tac超过 10 年前

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fidotron超过 10 年前
The tax break thing is a mess, simply because as the UK (and to a lesser degree France) discovered the EU prevents any member state from being able to compete with the likes of Canada, or the provinces of Canada, on this front. This is why the &quot;cultural test&quot; becomes important, but in the case of Scotland where the great videogame export is GTA while one Glasgow based episode sounds possibly amusing it&#x27;s not the foundation for longevity.<p>The other aspect of this is outside of defence and finance the UK tech sector took an absolute hammering over the last decade. You have the odd success story like ARM, but the games industry in north America is crawling with a disproportionately high number of Brits (and French people). In Montreal you could even tell when Realtime Worlds (makers of Crackdown based in Dundee) closed down thanks to the sudden influx of Scots. It is said that Scotland&#x27;s greatest export is the people.<p>On immigration policy I tend to think Scotland has the right idea, and rather than it being feared in the rest of the UK they should embrace it too. The raw problem is really one of housing shortage, and embracing skilled people coming in while dealing with housing is a far healthier idea than pulling up the drawbridge. Perversely if Scotland stayed within the UK and the UK did enact that policy Scotland&#x27;s people deficit would most likely remain.<p>Ultimately though an independence vote will create an investment situation with all the appeal of Detroit. The fun part is that narrowly rejecting independence won&#x27;t be much better, and in the long run could be even worse.
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lambdasquirrel超过 10 年前
I was hoping for an article of more depth. The points in the article, roughly backwards.<p>- Taxes don&#x27;t even matter to most startups because they don&#x27;t make any money. Maybe they&#x27;re called <i>startups</i> because it&#x27;s hard to <i>start up</i>. Har har.<p>- If finance money were important, then Silicon Valley should have been in NYC. Others have said this on this thread and many others. Someone should write a piece that snuffs this line of reason once and for all.<p>- The presence of established tech companies doesn&#x27;t mean much either. I&#x27;m just not even going to hit this one, beyond saying that Armonk and Redmond don&#x27;t have a splash of small companies nearby them.<p>Independence or not, a startup hub in Scotland would be nice.
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ColinCera超过 10 年前
As an American with two Scottish grandparents, I&#x27;m hoping an independent Scotland will implement a Scottish ancestry path to citizenship for Americans. I&#x27;ve visited Scotland twice and would <i>love</i> to live there and build a business there.<p>Of course I also hope there will be some reforms in taxes and bureaucracy to make starting a business in Scotland a reasonable proposition; currently it&#x27;s not rational to start a tech business in Scotland, given the immense advantages of doing business in the US. I don&#x27;t have much confidence that Scotland will actually become more business-friendly, but it would definitely be more likely as an independent nation.<p>But, yes, if an independent Scotland did create a business climate friendly to entrepreneurs and did make it easier for tech people to emigrate from the US, I for one would make the move in a heartbeat.
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untog超过 10 年前
<i>&quot;Banking is already well established in Scotland and in the same way that New York’s banking infrastructure has slowly given rise to a growing clutch of tech companies&quot;</i><p>Two thoughts: many Scottish banks have indicated that they will relocate in the event of independence:<p><a href="http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/11/news/economy/scotland-independence-banks/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;money.cnn.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;09&#x2F;11&#x2F;news&#x2F;economy&#x2F;scotland-indepe...</a><p>and I&#x27;m not so sure that the NYC tech scene has sprung up as a result of its banking industry. In many ways it has held it back, by taking a lot of tech talent.<p><i>&quot;There’s a real opportunity for growth in an Independent Scotland as a direct result of significant foreign investment (see the Irish tiger of the 80s and 90s).&quot;</i><p>Given the current state of Ireland, I really, really, really don&#x27;t think you want to use the Irish tiger as a possibility for a future Scotland.
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CmonDev超过 10 年前
Practical answer: having to support one more country flag, one more ISO country code and maybe one more english flavour locale or a currency :).
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pjc50超过 10 年前
Funny set of points to make, but yes: there&#x27;s great potential. Games industry in and around Dundee, centered on graduates of Abertay. Rockstar North. Quite a few other big names about: Oracle, Cadence, Microsoft. Quite a lot of tech in financial services. I nearly went to work for a satellite company in Glasgow called &quot;Clydespace&quot;.<p>A startup scene is not yet so visible. I&#x27;d be interested to hear where it is in Edinburgh.<p>If there is a spate of businesses pulling back over the border (which I highly doubt), that would just open up gaps in the market for local entrants to fill.
tlarkworthy超过 10 年前
8 years outside of EU will not help innovation (research grants, EU students) or economy (CAP payments, increased borrowing costs).<p>Spain has reiterated today it will not make Scotland&#x27;s entrance into the EU easy (<a href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/17/spain-independent-scotland-years-eu-membership" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;politics&#x2F;2014&#x2F;sep&#x2F;17&#x2F;spain-indepe...</a>)
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coriny超过 10 年前
&quot;it’s as crazy and unrealistic a dream as an independence referendum used to seem.&quot;<p>I&#x27;m assuming this guy&#x27;s pretty young as there was one 35 years ago. I kind of feel that a similar amount of evidence was used in the rest of the analysis as well.
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mischanix超过 10 年前
My (uninformed) view of the UK is that the reward for being in tech there is dismal, real money is hard to come by, pays and benefits are just enough to scrape by, etc.; the article brings up the point that while historically Scotland has been on the forefront of technology, it hasn&#x27;t been very active in the last few decades, which leads me to wonder if the poor rewards have led to the emigration of those who would otherwise base their tech startup in the UK.
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falsestprophet超过 10 年前
Several pleasant European countries have pretty low salary requirements for work visas for computer programmers: €37,128 for Germany and €30,000 for Ireland for example.<p>It probably isn&#x27;t a coincidence that being a computer programmer in one of these countries isn&#x27;t very lucrative.
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sparkzilla超过 10 年前
There&#x27;s a reasons Scots engineers like me left the country: no jobs.<p>It is highly unlikely that an independent Scotland will become any kind of tech powerhouse. Both parties are deeply socialist. If the Scottish National Party win expect a further move to the left. If the vote is Yes there will be a huge amount of political and economic instability.
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jstalin超过 10 年前
I&#x27;m cheering for a yes vote from across the atlantic.