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Heroku DX: The New Heroku Developer Experience

119 点作者 Spiritus超过 10 年前

12 条评论

mark_l_watson超过 10 年前
I like the new Ember.js based UI! Nice.<p>I have periodically used Heroku a lot, but I do have one gripe about them:<p>I tend to run a lot of low traffic web apps, apps that run well on Heroku&#x27;s free tier (and not minding the occasionally loading request delay). However, I just don&#x27;t feel comfortable using a service a lot that is free: being a freeloader. (Compare to Google: they make money off of me because I click on interesting looking ads.)<p>If Heroku had a cheap $10&#x2F;month 1 dyno tier (that might have a perk, like staying resident, not swapped out) that was restricted to a lower number of requests per day, then they would get a lot of my business running my experimental projects.<p>I have considered paying for a second dyno that I don&#x27;t really need, but $30&#x2F;month each for a lot of experimental web apps does add up. Not too off topic: I just wrote about how I create a personal Heroku-like experience on a VPS: <a href="http://blog.markwatson.com/2014/09/setting-up-heroku-like-git-push-deploys.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.markwatson.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;09&#x2F;setting-up-heroku-like-gi...</a><p>In any case, I think Heroku provides a great developer experience.
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vdaniuk超过 10 年前
Though I used Heroku in the past and enjoyed the seamless(mostly) experience, I am in the process of moving my infrastructure to docker containers.<p>I dislike the proprietary nature of Heroku platform and I am betting on Docker + Flynn&#x2F;Deis as a future golden standard of PaaS. My confidence is based on the momentum of Docker and Docker hosting services (orchardup, tutum, stackdock) as evidenced by their funding&#x2F;acquisitions and tech news hype. Also digitalocean, linode and other VPS provders have easy to install docker images.<p>I am enjoying (probably false) confidence that investing now in the docker expertise, I will have my development and deployment strategies mostly set for next 3-5 years. Rvm, virtualenv, haskell platform, etc - everyting becomes easier with docker to develop AND to deploy. Heroku doesn&#x27;t solve that. New services and products would be adopted by decentralized docker ecosystem faster than by Heroku.<p>This feels really nice.<p>Am I wrong to bet on docker? Should I return back to the the poisoned fruits of Heroku walled garden or venture forth in the great ocean with Docker? Is there a consensus in HN community?
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matt2000超过 10 年前
I <i>love</i> the developer experience with Heroku, just please give some of the gains of Moore&#x27;s law back to your customers. While AWS and Google drop prices and increase their offering, the 1x dyno stays exactly where it&#x27;s always been. I am completely fine with paying a premium over other services for your awesome toolset, but please just give us some of the improvements other cloud services are seeing instead of taking that as profits.
hhandoko超过 10 年前
I love the developer experience that Heroku provides, however I wish the would lower their prices a little bit and&#x2F;or introduce additional pricing tiers.<p>## The dynos are quite expensive by current standards<p>AWS has been continually dropping their prices, however those savings haven&#x27;t been carried over to Heroku? Either:<p>1) lower pricing, or<p>2) improve the resource allocation for the current dynos at the same price point, e.g. 1x dyno - x1CPU + 1GB, and 2x dyno - x2CPU + 2GB.<p>## There is a big gap between 2x and Performance dynos<p>Java apps are recommended to run with 1GB RAM, so practically my only option is to continue to scale horizontally [1]. Maybe there is an opportunity for a x2 CPU and 2GB dyno at $100&#x2F;mo?<p>Notes: [1] - I would have loved to have a bit more memory at my disposal. 1.5 &#x2F; 2GB would be ideal, but upgrading from 2x to Performance is too big of a jump ($70&#x2F;mo to $570&#x2F;mo).
paukiatwee超过 10 年前
I like Heroku&#x27;s PostgreSQL. So far only AWS RDS can compete. Or there is any recommendation of PostgreSQL as a Service?<p>Heroku Standard 0 (1GB RAM): $50.00 per month RDS On Demand (1GB RAM): $12.96 per month RDS REserved 1 Year (1GB RAM): $9.29 per month
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lucisferre超过 10 年前
So far I love the new DX, I&#x27;ve been using the beta for a while now. It&#x27;s a significantly improved UX overall.<p>On an unrelated note, I think it&#x27;s time to retire the 1X tier, or just make that the free tier and bring the price of 2X in line with 1X. You just can&#x27;t do all that much with 512MB of ram and given the progression of technology this doesn&#x27;t seem like a huge ask.<p>Also in the interest of security I can&#x27;t think of any reason why encryption-at-rest should be available on the standard database tier.<p>But then maybe I&#x27;m just cheap.
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smanuel超过 10 年前
How does the new Dashboard + Metrics compare to using the New Relic plugin?
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driverdan超过 10 年前
No RAM for Postgres until you reach $50&#x2F;m? Talk about profit margins!
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lunarcave超过 10 年前
<p><pre><code> Application Metrics are currently only available for apps with two or more running dynos of any size </code></pre> Of course, I can&#x27;t be a freeloader and complain about this I guess.
ShashankR超过 10 年前
I always hated the all dark design of their dashboard. I&#x27;m glad they are using some lighter colors now!!
Cthulhu_超过 10 年前
A bit of an unfortunate choice of name if you consider the name a smiley DX
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mangeletti超过 10 年前
I love that Heroku has redesigned the UI, but jeeze. Ever hear the expression, &quot;too much of a good thing&quot;? Their trademark purple is neat, in small doses.<p>For instance, I REALLY REALLY love the ocean. I love SCUBA diving, and I love the color blue. However, you won&#x27;t find me living in this house <a href="http://cl.ly/3I3R2z0q1A2S" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cl.ly&#x2F;3I3R2z0q1A2S</a>. However, <a href="http://cl.ly/0R3H3k2s3Z3x" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cl.ly&#x2F;0R3H3k2s3Z3x</a> looks very appealing to me. Catch my drift?<p>It&#x27;s as if Heroku fired all of their designers and put developers in charge of the entire UI design process. I&#x27;ve seen that happen, so I don&#x27;t say that to be a troll. I&#x27;m seriously disgusted by the monotonous nature of the new UI.<p>That said, it appears to have very many useful new features, which surely outweighs most of my aesthetic concerns.
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