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The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

99 点作者 kevination超过 10 年前

19 条评论

mercwear超过 10 年前
I have to agree with the initial comment on the article, this is a fear mongering piece. Anyone that has a working knowledge of firearms can put together a usable weapon using readily available parts. In fact, a trip to home depot is all you need in order to build a crude (and pretty dangerous) shotgun. I also think it goes without saying that a criminal would probably opt to spend the $1,200 required to buy this CNC device on a weapon (or weapons) that have already been assembled.
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buro9超过 10 年前
This looks awesome.<p>For $1,200 you could set up as a company making little things for others, earn enough to pay for the machine and then benefit from it yourself.<p>What I would do with such a machine is to solve the problem of bike accessories and mounts. i.e. every light has a different mount, as do GPS devices, and cameras, and bag attachments. Yet you could manufacture some common clamp, and then adaptors for each thing. Perhaps standardise around something like the GoPro bracket for an even wider market (it would allow flashes and other accessories to be mounted using existing GoPro segments).<p>There&#x27;s so many things you can do.<p>And they make a gun! Who cares about guns! It&#x27;s all the other stuff that make this awesome.
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alricb超过 10 年前
The main reason this allows you to build an AR-style rifle is that US firearms law focuses on receivers (per U.S.C. Section 921(a)(3), which are in many cases quite easy to manufacture. For instance, many Kalashnikov receivers are made of stamped sheet metal.<p>The pressure-bearing parts, like the barrel or the bolt, are much harder to manufacture, at least for rifles. Most European countries will therefore regulate these, but they won&#x27;t necessarily regulate ancillary parts like receivers or stocks. AFAIK, a full-auto AR receiver, which is highly regulated in the US, is treated as nothing more than a chunk of metal under UK law (as long as you don&#x27;t illegally assemble it with a barrel and other parts).<p>[I was wrong; according to the 9th report of the Firearms Consultative Comity, Annex D, receivers are controlled as &quot;component parts&quot;]
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InfiniteRand超过 10 年前
There is a potential here for there to be a change similar to the 18th century. Suddenly, non-governmental forces or fledgling governments can quickly equip a lightly armed force. For the last 1-2 centuries you needed a manufacturing infrastructure under your control, but a 3-D printer device like this (if I am understanding the article correctly, and perhaps I am not).<p>In the 18th century, relatively low-cost and reliable rifles became available, and this fundamentally changed the balance between established governments and small armed groups. This changed contributed to the American Revolution, the French Revolution, and the downfall of the Mughal Empire (where small regional rebellions suddenly became more viable and central control began to break down).<p>This period eventually ended in the 19th century, when is debatable, but once you had a gatling gun, a professional heavily armed force could mow down lightly armed forces without large casualties.<p>Chances are this development will be the final word (and certainly it has not had a huge impact yet, so maybe my speculation is premature), eventually there will become some expensive but exceptionally effective weapon only large governments can afford or supply, but 3-D printers making guns could have serious effects on the course of politics and warfare within the next few decades.<p>As the old curse goes, may you live in interesting times...
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cpwright超过 10 年前
Mother Jones did a story on this a while ago, and I was under the impression that if you had a drill press it would be enough to get an 80% receiver usable.<p>Either way, I&#x27;m glad Defense Distributed is moving the ball forward on this issue.<p>Edit to add: This company makes plastic ones that a drill, chisel, and Dremel are enough to finish, no CNC machine necessary. <a href="http://www.ammoland.com/2014/02/ep80-ar15-rifle-lower-at-home-with-common-tools/#axzz3EuOmGCCg" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ammoland.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;02&#x2F;ep80-ar15-rifle-lower-at-hom...</a>
NoMoreNicksLeft超过 10 年前
&gt; ill your own lower receiver at home, however, and you can order the rest of the parts from online gun shops, creating a semi-automatic weapon with no serial number, obtained with no background check, no waiting period<p>Besides the 6 months it takes to learn to make one that won&#x27;t blow up in your face when you pull the trigger?<p>Alarmist drivel.
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viggity超过 10 年前
I&#x27;m very much a libertarian, pro-gun kind of guy and I&#x27;m glad this project project exists, but I do have to say I&#x27;m reluctant about it. There isn&#x27;t really anything (that I can see) that can stop this movement. I abhor gun registries and most restrictions on firearms but I&#x27;m glad that there is at least a small hurdle to acquiring a firearm (purchase permits). Hopefully the trend towards more and more CCW holders increases as responsible people carrying guns will be a big line of defense against crazy people. See: <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/dgu" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;dgu</a> for a sampling of recent defensive gun uses, it is a very common occurance.
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metafex超过 10 年前
Is this thing really a $1200 CNC-mill? What are the dimensions it takes? Also, materials, aluminium only?<p>This thing could be really nice for hobby projects (not gun related, that is).
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CapitalistCartr超过 10 年前
The author has no understanding of CNC machines and didn&#x27;t do his homework. This is all completely wrong:<p>&quot;Like any computer-numerically-controlled (or CNC) mill, the one-foot-cubed black box uses a drill bit mounted on a head that moves in three dimensions to automatically carve digitally-modeled shapes into polymer, wood or aluminum.&quot;<p>CNCs use drill bits for drilling, but not cutting. They use a carbide router bit. Look like a drill bit, but isn&#x27;t. His machine might use a drill bit, but it&#x27;s not the norm and &quot;any CNC&quot; doesn&#x27;t.<p>CNC routers, or mills, divide into those that cut steel and those that cut everything else, not &quot;polymer, wood or aluminum&quot;. From this article, I can&#x27;t tell nearly as much as I&#x27;d like to about this machine, and I do this for a living.
kelvin0超过 10 年前
Don&#x27;t even need a CNC machine (or any hi tech device) to build lethal automatic weapons: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FinRqCocwGE" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=FinRqCocwGE</a><p>Craftsmanship, experience and raw materials only are needed.
gao8a超过 10 年前
I wish it could make this into 100% :)<p><a href="http://www.80percentarms.com/products/0-billet-ar-15-lower-receiver" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.80percentarms.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;0-billet-ar-15-lower-r...</a>
Sn1PeR超过 10 年前
Or I could buy ~12+ lower receivers...
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thisjepisje超过 10 年前
So... it&#x27;s a CNC machining apparatus? Why are people making such a fuss about that?
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quux超过 10 年前
Or you can do what some people have done and carve an AR-15 receiver out of wood. Making your own receiver isn&#x27;t really news.
bambax超过 10 年前
What does it mean to sell a machine the sole purpose of which is to exploit a &quot;legal loophole&quot;? Can&#x27;t the machine be made illegal the minute it&#x27;s available to the public?<p>You can&#x27;t sell all the ingredients, tools and instructions to build a meth lab (<i>&quot;Breaking Bad in a Box&quot;</i>!) so what&#x27;s so different with a gun?
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infinity0超过 10 年前
$1200 machine that can print arbitrary metal objects and the journalist focuses on a gun? What is wrong with you people...
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jmscharff2超过 10 年前
I believe that there are laws in place from making the barrel at home. You can make a gun with a lot of the 3d printers as well.
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mentos超过 10 年前
I&#x27;m pretty sure the lethal part of the equation isn&#x27;t metal receivers but gun powder and bullets.<p>Why aren&#x27;t we limiting the sale of bullets (explosives)?<p>edit: Chris Rock said it best: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db0Y4qIZ4PA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Db0Y4qIZ4PA</a>
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stevemck超过 10 年前
Guns scare the shit out of me.<p>When I grew up in Australia where there is basically no guns. I used to walk on streets even on a drunken Friday &#x2F; Saturday night without fear.<p>I moved to the US a few years ago and since then every corner I turn, I see people and I worry.<p>I don&#x27;t worry about getting robbed. No. I worry about a gun fight somewhere and a stray bullet hits me. I worry that someone drunk might hold me at gunpoint and at a moment of misjudgement he&#x2F;she shoots me.<p>It is pretty hard to get killed by being punched. On the other hand, it is pretty easy to lose your mind for a second and shoot someone<p>I hate this project, because now the barrier to entry of owning a unregistered gun is so much lower
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