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The Most Ambitious Environmental Lawsuit Ever

106 点作者 metermaid超过 10 年前

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rayiner超过 10 年前
What&#x27;s tough and utterly ignored by this article is that it&#x27;s not just the lobbyists who oppose you, it&#x27;s ordinary people. There is a sincere and deep seated belief that it&#x27;s morally objectionable to ask companies to answer for their actions in a court of law, that there are no alternatives to destroying the environment, and that such lawsuits threaten the existence of economies like that in Lousiana.<p>That&#x27;s why these politicians can take actions in favor of the industry with impunity.<p>&gt; Jones figured there would be a period of quiescence while the industry decided how to respond. Within hours, Jindal, who was in Aspen, Colo., at a meeting of the Republican Governors Association, released a statement. “This is nothing but a windfall for a handful of trial lawyers,” Jindal said, arguing that the suit came “at the expense of our coast and thousands of hardworking Louisianians who help fuel America by working in the energy industry.”<p>85% of people in Louisiana buy this stuff up. They&#x27;ll buy it up until all the oil is gone, and when the companies leave they&#x27;ll have no jobs and their state will be a wasteland unfit for any other sort of economy.<p>To be fair, it&#x27;s not just Louisiana. During the last Presidential election, Obama and Romney literally fought during one debate to show who was more pro-coal. There&#x27;s no point in doing that if you&#x27;re just after campaign donations--the coal companies can do their own advertising. No, such theatrics are to get votes in places like West Virginia, Pennsylvania, southeastern Illinois, etc.
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robbiet480超过 10 年前
Lobbying and what seems to me to be unchecked flouting of the law is utterly disgusting.
selimthegrim超过 10 年前
I saw John Barry speak; had no idea he had a doctorate. Brought down the house, a real barnstormer.
thinkcomp超过 10 年前
I think that articles about lawsuits should allow readers to actually see the lawsuits themselves, and should always at least mention the case number. So, in that spirit, here it is:<p><a href="http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/1zzhdj2de/louisiana-eastern-district-court/board-of-commissioners-of-the-southeast-louisiana-flood-/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.plainsite.org&#x2F;dockets&#x2F;1zzhdj2de&#x2F;louisiana-eastern...</a>
cpursley超过 10 年前
One of the things that attracts me to libertarianism is how environmental disasters are handled. <i>Shocker</i> but under a more libertarian system, there would not be laws that protect wealthy corporations specifically allowing them to get away with pollution. Public and private land owners would be able to rightfully sue culprits for property damage.<p>In fact, some of the worst polluters are nations where the state owns the majority of land and&#x2F;or production like Soviet Union and China. I was both dumbfounded and sad to see the amount of trash in the Black Sea along the Russian coast that was dumped there or floated into it via the danube river during soviet rule.<p>It&#x27;s especially sad to see this sort of thing happening in the United States, which is a relativity environmentally conscious country with large swaths of protected land. I wouldn&#x27;t take it as far is the following article details, but some of the ideas here would be better than the current system: <a href="https://mises.org/daily/5978/The-Libertarian-Manifesto-on-Pollution" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mises.org&#x2F;daily&#x2F;5978&#x2F;The-Libertarian-Manifesto-on-Po...</a>
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spenvo超过 10 年前
“Writing is pretty isolated,” Barry said. “I enjoy the action. I like to fight.” &#x2F;&#x2F; More coders should feel this way when it comes to issues about which they&#x27;re passionate. In other words, more of us should consider becoming hacktivists -- at least on the side. As hacktivists, a wise first step towards making a difference is to treat political science as continuing education. Yes, articles like this should pique your interest. Read them. But also pick up some books and get serious.<p>To that end, as an alternative to &quot;Rising Tide&quot; by John Barry (from the linked article): I highly recommend reading (as did Aaron Swartz)[0][1] &quot;The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York&quot;. It is a brilliant, Pulitzer-prize-winning case study of the forces at play in broken&#x2F;corrupt governments (and how opaque the processes which formulate and execute the policies of governance truly are).<p>In Aaron&#x27;s own words: &quot;For nearly forty years, Robert Moses controlled New York. Controlled it almost absolutely, overruling every mayor, governor, president, and public pressure group. He did it all without anyone ever knowing: the press, when it did cover him, covered him only in the most glowing, reverent terms. He did it all without winning a single election: the two times he did dare run for office, he was defeated so soundly as to become a joke.<p>&quot;_The Power Broker_ is the story of how our &quot;democracy&quot; really works. How men gain power and how it corrupts them. How cities get built and how real people suffer for it. How we became a nation desperately dependent on the car.&quot;<p>I will add that Robert Moses was the pioneer of eminent domain (a massive blow to the philosophical underpinnings of property rights in the USA) and modern public authorities (highly insular entities which are hybrids bodies corporate &amp; politic -- receiving money from the public with zero effective accountability to taxpayers -- hard to summarize implications, but they have been enormous).<p>[0] - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/review/RXOVNQ3JLY6GF" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;review&#x2F;RXOVNQ3JLY6GF</a><p>[1] - <a href="https://zolabooks.com/list/aaron-swartz-reading-list/1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;zolabooks.com&#x2F;list&#x2F;aaron-swartz-reading-list&#x2F;1</a><p>[2] - for those who&#x27;d prefer to listen, an excellent narration is available on Audible -- <a href="http://www.audible.com/pd/Bios-Memoirs/The-Power-Broker-Audiobook/B0051JH67K" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.audible.com&#x2F;pd&#x2F;Bios-Memoirs&#x2F;The-Power-Broker-Audi...</a><p>Next I&#x27;d consider: &quot;Hacking Politics&quot; (about SOPA&#x2F;PIPA) or &quot;Understanding Power&quot; - a collection of talks by Noam Chomsky -- not for his ideological insights but for his manner of making observations and thought-provoking perspectives.
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