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Is Social Psychology Biased Against Republicans?

39 点作者 clarkm超过 10 年前

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fecklessyouth超过 10 年前
&gt;The N.Y.U. political psychologist John Jost made the point even more strongly, calling Haidt’s remarks “armchair demography.” Jost wrote, “Haidt fails to grapple meaningfully with the question of why nearly all of the best minds in science find liberal ideas to be closer to the mark with respect to evolution, human nature, mental health, close relationships, intergroup relations, ethics, social justice, conflict resolution, environmental sustainability, and so on.”<p>A comment meant to combat Haidt&#x27;s criticism ends up embodying it.
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privong超过 10 年前
&gt; But where were the hard numbers that pointed to bias, be it in the selection of professionals or the publication process, skeptics asked? ... Maybe it was the case that liberals simply wanted to become professors more often than conservatives.<p>Interesting. I wonder if those same people would explain a lack of gender diversity in tech as &quot;women aren&#x27;t interested in tech&quot;, or an analogous feeling in other fields? I guess I do not have an understanding for how much of that reaction is a general attitude towards diversity versus a reactionary stance in regards to the suggestion of a lack of diversity in one&#x27;s own domain of work&#x2F;expertise&#x2F;culture&#x2F;experience.<p>&gt; But the percentages varied. Regarding economic affairs, approximately nineteen per cent called themselves moderates, and eighteen per cent, conservative. On foreign policy, just over twenty-one per cent were moderate, and ten per cent, conservative. It was only on the social-issues scale that the numbers reflected Haidt’s fears: more than ninety per cent reported themselves to be liberal, and just under four per cent, conservative.<p>Certainly the social issues are more extreme, but having a ~70% to 10% ratio of liberal to conservative thinking for foreign policy is still very lopsided. I think all three categories would be considered too lopsided, not just the last one.
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gress超过 10 年前
One could equally ask the question, &quot;Are Republicans Biased against Social Psychology&quot;?<p>Social conservatism generally seeks to preserve existing power relationships. Science is about discovering <i>new</i> understanding.<p>Unless we&#x27;ve already passed the peak of understanding of the human condition and factored that into our politics (which is an implication of conservatism), social psychology will keep challenging conservatives.<p>Political views are not just different flavors. They have structural implications about what ideas one is willing to entertain. It would be much more disturbing if there was <i>not</i> bias here.
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muuh-gnu超过 10 年前
Academia _as a whole_ is biased against republicans&#x2F;libertarians&#x2F;capitalists and toward the state, i.e. towards leftism, because thats where their paychecks come from. He who pays the piper, calls the tune.
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ArkyBeagle超过 10 年前
In the early 19th Century, the Unitarians &quot;took over&quot; Harvard from the Congregationalists. Since a great deal of academia is path dependent, academia has had a sort of Progressive bent, seemingly baked into the cake.<p>( I got this here; I forget which essay it is <a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~flyingdragongoddess/indexa.html#peter" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;home.earthlink.net&#x2F;~flyingdragongoddess&#x2F;indexa.html#p...</a>)<p>Modern Movement Conservatism isn&#x27;t very close to the sort of values that academia embraces. It&#x27;s not even close to what an academic might consider Conservatism ( Burke, Oakeshott ).<p>A lot of Conservatives come from dealing with regulation and tax codes - that&#x27;s unlikely to happen to academics.<p>And I still think Arnold Kling&#x27;s Three-Axis Model is fantastic. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Three-Languages-Politics-Arnold-Kling-ebook/dp/B00CCGF81Q" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Three-Languages-Politics-Arnold-Kling-...</a>
DanBC超过 10 年前
Here&#x27;s an alarming document that shows just how hopelessly bad some of the science is in social psychology.<p><a href="http://wjh.harvard.edu/~jmitchel/writing/failed_science.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;wjh.harvard.edu&#x2F;~jmitchel&#x2F;writing&#x2F;failed_science.htm</a><p>There&#x27;s no hope of spotting or preventing bias if social psychologists are working like that so the fact that many social psychiatrists are &quot;liberal&quot; is going to skew the results of &quot;experiments&quot;.
spindritf超过 10 年前
Sure, social scientists are pretty open about their discrimination of conservatives. They admitted it in a survey[1].<p>The bigger problem is that social science has few correction mechanism. Your biases in computer science will usually be quickly and brutally dealt with by an uncaring computer. Physicists have actual, definitive experiments. Social sciences are seemingly helpless in the face of p-hacking and other bullshittery, even outright fabrications.<p>Ideological bias of course makes it worse (vide Stapel&#x27;s paper on racism[2]) but it&#x27;s not the root cause.<p>[1] <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/1/liberal-majority-on-campus-yes-were-biased/?page=all" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtontimes.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2012&#x2F;aug&#x2F;1&#x2F;liberal-major...</a><p>[2] <a href="http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110407/full/news.2011.217.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2011&#x2F;110407&#x2F;full&#x2F;news.2011.217.ht...</a>
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aplusbi超过 10 年前
&gt;a lack of political diversity that was every bit as dangerous as a lack of, say, racial or religious or gender diversity.<p>The lack of young-earth creationists in science is very worrisome.
Xcelerate超过 10 年前
Does anyone find it ironic how many downvotes are in this thread? An article about how a majority with a certain viewpoint is biased against a minority with a different viewpoint, and a comments section that&#x27;s full of people downvoting others whose opinion they personally disagree with.
tlogan超过 10 年前
I don&#x27;t think this is hard to understand this.<p>The Republican Party (as of now) is not inclusive. If you are not white, your English is not so great, or your sexual orientation is not heterosexual, or you are traveling and learning about other countries, or you are not born here, or you don&#x27;t believe in creationism, or your religious views are not Christians then you are out.<p>And the worst thing is that they don&#x27;t even notice that. Like ridiculing me about my accent and heritage and then asking &quot;why you are not republican - we have similar views...&quot;. Yeah... I have a Trotsky book to sell you.<p>So if you are in academia you will be excluded by Republican Party because of the following:<p>- you don&#x27;t believe in creationism<p>- your religious views are not Christians<p>- you are not born here<p>- you are married with somebody who is not born here<p>- you are traveling around the world<p>In short, Republican party is getting defined not by its policy but by its exclusion principle (and it is defined by Fox News - which is not helping Republican party at all).
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ldrager超过 10 年前
My comment (also on Reddit).<p>The problem with our current crop of rightists and science and scholarship (sometimes perceived as &quot;bias&quot;) is the &quot;Fox News effect.&quot; Scientists and scholars wish to determine and understand reality---and reality has a well known Liberal bias. (Think climate change, evolution, etc., etc.)<p>I&#x27;m willing to listen to anyone, but I am going to judge them by the standards of science and scholarship. If they are not serious about those standards, they are only worth listening to in order to determine the latest right-wing myths.<p>Note there are certainly people on the left who are not members of the reality based community, but at this moment those on the right are the biggest threat to science and scholarship (I omit political topics) and, in the case of climate change, our lives
tomohawk超过 10 年前
&quot;Liberals may be more interested in new ideas, more willing to work for peanuts, or just more intelligent&quot;<p>Nope - no bias to be found here in our neck of the woods!<p>Turning this around: perhaps conservatives are &quot;more interested in new ideas&quot; and &quot;more intelligent&quot;, so they choose to work in other fields?
MisterBastahrd超过 10 年前
People interested in furthering human knowledge in the area of social interaction are less inclined to be ideologically inclined to declare that the area of research is a solved problem?<p>You don&#x27;t say.
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jahooma超过 10 年前
Well, there&#x27;s only one truth. It&#x27;s perfectly plausible that one set of ideas (conservative ideas) could be less scientific than another set (liberal ideas).<p>However, ideology can influence us, since we are not perfect at science. Without the strong objective feedback of the hard sciences, social psychology is particularly vulnerable.<p>The bias alleged in this article actually starts to look more plausible when you consider the history of social psychology and related fields. Back in the 1970s, it was taboo to mention ANY innate qualities of human nature. Gender was purely a social construction. Babies were identical in every way--people were different only because of their upbringing. Prominent biologists like E.O. Wilson who argued genes might play a role were attacked and demonized. Nothing could contradict this doctrine of the blank slate -- that we&#x27;re born perfectly malleable. I highly recommend Steven Pinker&#x27;s 2002 book, titled &quot;The Blank Slate&quot; [0] which brilliantly debunks this theory, and lays out the best characterization of human nature I&#x27;ve ever come across. Seriously, read this book, it is a masterpiece.<p>Anyway, from what I&#x27;ve read recently, it seems many fields like social psychology are still captive to lesser versions of the blank slate fallacy. Human nature is not as malleable as they think. Our instincts are still there (gotta eat, sleep, procreate), and even &quot;higher&quot; areas of the brain for things like language, emotion, and thought seem to be heavily innate (to think at all requires machinery, and there are many ways to craft that machinery). Also, genes really are more important than most seem to realize. The twin and adoption studies show that the majority of variation among people in intelligence and personality is due to genes. How your parents treated you and brought you up has almost no effect by the time you are an adult in important metrics like IQ and personality tests. Smart people are largely born smart.<p>These sort of &quot;deterministic&quot; ideas fly in the face of traditional liberal values. Topics like gender discrimination and societal inequality are undermined by these ideas, so that provides a reason for a liberal thinker to push back against them.<p>If the gender gap in computer science is due more to innate differences in interest than to discrimination, and if inequality of income is due more to innate differences in talent than differences in opportunity, then that makes it harder to argue for reform. I believe thinking along these lines is the major cause for bias today.<p>So yes, I agree social psychology is quite biased. In the future, we will look back with horror at how we let politics and ideology interfere with science.<p>[0]<a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Blank-Slate-Modern-Denial/dp/0142003344/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;The-Blank-Slate-Modern-Denial&#x2F;dp&#x2F;01420...</a>