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Ask HN: Can I decline a job offer already accepted?

17 点作者 gmen超过 10 年前
I accepted a job offer from a US company X, and while waiting for them to send me the contract, I received a better offer from US company Y.<p>Now I would like to go with company Y, but I already accepted the offer from Company X (I did not sign anything, I accepted it via email).<p>Is it legal to decline the offer from company X after accepting it? Do I risk anything?

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patio11超过 10 年前
Totally legal. Your main risk is social opprobrium. There exists a social norm that you not do this, and it may be considered unprofessional behavior by the people attempting to hire you. People do talk, so I&#x27;d weigh the possibility of burning those bridges over the relative certainty in the differences between offer Y and offer X.<p>In my younger days, I would have flatly advised against it for mostly karmic reasons, but having seen the general tenor of business relationships and how many companies treat not-yet-signed employees, I am unable to muster any moral outrage against an employee who terminates a negotiation despite that negotiation appearing to be in late stages.
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stevewilhelm超过 10 年前
If it truly is a better job and you are clear and honest with company X they will be disappointed but shouldn&#x27;t begrudge you for taking the other offer.<p>But I wouldn&#x27;t make a habit of declining offers after accepting. The US tech community is smaller than you think and you wouldn&#x27;t want get a reputation of not being true to your word.<p>If it is just a better offer in terms of money or shares, you can tell company X the details of company Y&#x27;s deal. Company X might not be aware of current going rate and may be willing to match company Y&#x27;s offer.
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chatmasta超过 10 年前
It&#x27;s legal. Ignore the people here saying it&#x27;s &quot;bad karma.&quot; What does that even mean? Presumably you&#x27;ll be working for this company for a few years. You should pick the one you like the most. It&#x27;s your next couple years, not the company&#x27;s. They can always extend an offer to the next person in line.<p>That said, be careful, because there are extenuating circumstances. People do talk, especially in the same industry and city. Still, I highly doubt hiring manager at Y would reneg your offer if he heard from X that you chose Y over X. If anything he&#x27;d be happy!<p>Also note that if you got this job through your school&#x27;s career network (alumni or otherwise), they may have policies in place that prohibit reneging on offers, and blacklist you if you do. Even then, though, you didn&#x27;t sign anything.<p>I&#x27;m of the opinion that you should do what&#x27;s best for yourself. This is your life, and the job will affect its foreseeable future. Make whatever decision you will regret the least in two years.<p>&quot;If you can project yourself out to age 80 and sort of think, “What will I think at that time?” it gets you away from some of the daily pieces of confusion.&quot;<p>- Jeff Bezos on deciding to leave Wall St to start Amazon [1]<p><a href="http://bijansabet.com/post/147533511/jeff-bezos-regret-minimization-framework" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bijansabet.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;147533511&#x2F;jeff-bezos-regret-minim...</a>
davismwfl超过 10 年前
I am not a lawyer, but from what I know it is not illegal to accept an offer and then decline it later before you have signed an agreement. For that matter, from my knowledge nothing generally would stop you from &quot;quitting&quot; the job on day 1, except you may create an upset employer.<p>You could simply go back and say something like:<p>&quot;Hi Company X, as I am sure you realize I applied to multiple openings when looking to take my next position. And while I have been waiting to receive the contract from you I was contacted by another firm that showed interest and already received the contract from them. I greatly respect your time and efforts, but I feel this other offer is a better fit at this time for me. This has no reflection on your firm or offer, but I feel I might be a better fit with them, and I hope you understand. I hope we can work together in the future, thank you for all your hospitality&quot;<p>I do think you have to be 100% up front about what you are doing, but companies get it, and this is a competitive market. You may burn a bridge here though at least with this company, so just be aware of that. In the end though, if you make it more about yourself and are up front, you likely won&#x27;t create any major issues.<p>Just my 2 cents.
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adventured超过 10 年前
It&#x27;s completely legal to decline offer X, and instead take offer Y.<p>If you&#x27;re certain it&#x27;s the best opportunity, do not hesitate to take offer Y.<p>However, also, be honest with company X about what happened. You don&#x27;t owe them a huge explanation, these things happen all the time. Simply let them know that while waiting for the contract, you received a better offer and have decided to take it. Company X may even upgrade their offer to you as a counter.
ssharp超过 10 年前
If you haven&#x27;t signed any binding contract, you aren&#x27;t under any legal obligation.<p>Early on in my career, around a decade ago, I gave a wishy-washy acceptance that I backed out of a couple of days later. I felt bad doing it, but the more I looked at the company, the less I wanted to work there. I still regret the way I handled the situation but don&#x27;t regret the ultimate decision.
arisAlexis超过 10 年前
sure it&#x27;s bad karma but just be flat out frank with them, apologize, forget about it, have a nice new life with Y.<p>US and especially silicon valley is very clear about the rules of the game, and the rules is that there are no bad moves only illegal ones.
hiring_sucks超过 10 年前
I&#x27;ve done it.<p>Under the terms that were given to me by company Y, I simply could not accept it. So I accepted the offer from Company X over the phone and they were to send me the paper work.<p>When I called Company Y to let the know, they changed the offer to be more favorable towards me after initially accepting the rejection. The terms were significantly better than Company X.<p>I told Company X about the new situation, and gave them a day to decide what they would want to do. They decided not to match the offer from Company Y.<p>I think company&#x27;s understand that the talent pool in tech. is highly sought after and sometimes they win and sometimes they lose.<p>After all, this is business, right?
MeHighLow超过 10 年前
It is certainly not an illegal move and you shouldn&#x27;t really be burning any bridges. Surely they will also have backup candidates they can call in case an offer to you falls through.<p>However, if you had signed the contract with company X, then got a better offer from company Y and you decide to leave, then you might have burnt some bridges.<p>Best policy is to be be honest and tell them what&#x27;s up. They should understand you&#x27;re trying to maximize your opportunities
zhte415超过 10 年前
Appreciate the connection and chance X is giving. By phrasing the question in a very position based nature (legality, contract, risk) I&#x27;m worried you may be framing out and sacrifice the relationships or interests with X. Seek agreement this is a good opportunity, but you appreciate the opportunity with X. Don&#x27;t make it sound superficial. The short term cards are in your hands, longer term you may well meet again people from Y.
JoeAltmaier超过 10 年前
You have no problem. Many states are at-will employment, which means you can leave for any reason or no reason. If they have not paid you anything, then you own them nothing - employment is about the money, and until money changes hands, there&#x27;s no obligation.<p>This is an extremely common occurrence. Folks take jobs all the time and never show up. My old boss at Intermec complained that 1&#x2F;3 or more of the people he &#x27;hired&#x27; never showed.
jenkstom超过 10 年前
Most companies have a &quot;probation&quot; period for the first 30-90 days. The idea is that if it isn&#x27;t working for the company or the worker, they can end the relationship without drama. You&#x27;re just doing it even earlier than that. It will cost them less for you to drop out at this point than after you have actually gone through the process of being hired.
gjvc超过 10 年前
&quot;If you tell the truth, you never have to remember anything.&quot; -- Mark Twain<p>Don&#x27;t sweat it.
mattwritescode超过 10 年前
You are allowed to change your mind just make sure you are doing it for yourself and not looking through recruiters tinted glasses.
marylu超过 10 年前
hello,i am a new comer
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