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How I Built a Barbecue Restaurant in Brooklyn: The Toll of Owning Your Business

177 点作者 ezl超过 10 年前

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ezl超过 10 年前
Posted because a lot of things in this rang true about founding tech companies for me as well:<p><i>There&#x27;s a reason why big accomplishments always come with effusive thanks to family and friends. It&#x27;s not just about giving thanks—it&#x27;s about publicly apologizing to the people who&#x27;ve sacrificed so much so you can realize a dream.</i>
bredman超过 10 年前
The one constant that seems to come up in all these founder stories is that you better love what you&#x27;re doing. There&#x27;s no guarantee that your new business will be successful or profitable but it seems inevitable you will sink nearly all your time, energy, and money into it. You better be feel rewarded by the journey because that&#x27;s all you can count on.
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davidw超过 10 年前
How do BBQ restaurants work? The two methods I can think of are: 1) you run out when you run out and that&#x27;s it for the day 2) you keep stuff warm. I&#x27;d expect that to dry it out. I&#x27;ve heard some of the famous ones in the south use method #1.<p>Real BBQ is smoking stuff at low temperatures (not too far from 100C) for a long time - briskets can take 12+ hours or longer. So you can&#x27;t just throw an extra one on when the customer orders, it&#x27;s basically got to be ready.<p>I think if I ever had a serious amount of disposable money, I&#x27;d open a BBQ joint here in Italy.
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NaOH超过 10 年前
I’ve worked in the food industry for quite a while, 16 years I think, often in kitchens but sometimes in other areas. About 20 months ago I launched my own food business. I’m the only employee. The few products I sell should be served fresh, so I go to the kitchen 364 days a year to prepare and deliver fresh goods. In some ways I can relate to Tyson Ho, in others I can’t, the difference being only how our work is similar or divergent.<p>He’s had much more attention than I’ve had. I’m not certain what he did to garner it, but I’ve worked hard to fly under the radar. From following the tech industry (and others) for many years, I’ve made it a point to not grow too fast, to avoid taking on more than is possible, physically or economically. I’d rather under-promise and then over-deliver. Or, as is often discussed in places like HN, I want to manage customers’ expectations.<p>One result is that I’ve done no marketing beyond some occasional use of Twitter. I don’t even have a website yet. In fact, I haven’t solicited one customer. Speaking to one person in food retail led to that person carrying my products when I launched, and every customer since has come by word of mouth. Since I only wholesale, my customers are not the people ultimately buying my products for consumption. So I do everything to keep my customers happy, word gradually spreads about my products, and other retailers find their way to me.<p>Still, I can understand the tight economics Mr. Ho describes. I was profitable within weeks of launching, but I’m not rolling in money by any stretch. I’d hate to know what I make on an hourly basis. But I don’t know because it’s not one of the measures I use for gauging whether this is succeeding. I measure myself by my performance in the kitchen —things like punctuality, product quality, sanitation. I measure customer service by my customers&#x27; satisfaction with how I handle their needs. And I measure the bottom line simply by whether or not the bank balance is going up.<p>He discussed balancing work with other aspects of life. I’m content with how I’ve done there. Mind you, I’m single and childless, so it’s not fair to compare me to him. But I’ve maintained some social life (that was never too big for me), and I’ve continued the long-distance friendships I’ve long been part of.<p>All told, I’ve never understood why people get into this industry. It’s physically brutal, mentally endless, hard to make decent money, and customer expectations are brutal. On that last one, I’ll note that every industry has its odd customer expectations, but food is one of the oddest I’ve ever noticed. Example: You have a date with your significant other. The restaurant darn well better seat the two of you within minutes of your reservation time. In contrast, the doctor’s office has a waiting room you’re likely to sit in no matter how punctual you are. Another example: Unless something sells out from popularity, food customers usually don’t tolerate things being unavailable. “I’m sorry, there’s no bread for the table because the oven broke” isn’t something you hear, and that’s because customers, and in turn restaurant owners, won’t tolerate it.<p>The best description I’ve ever heard about restaurant life is that it’s like working in an emergency room but without the life and death. But you can bet anyone worth their salt in a kitchen treats it like like and death. Still, I enjoy what I do and find both the work and customer service rewarding. I don’t blame anyone for trying this industry and fleeing it as fast as possible. And since it sounds like Mr. Ho is doing good work, I certainly hope he’s able to make his business work.
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stevewillows超过 10 年前
A quote from a David Sedaris article [1] sums it up nicely through a conversation he had with an entrepreneur who was intending to retire at 55.<p>&gt; &quot;One burner represents your family, one is your friends, the third is your health, and the fourth is your work.&quot; The gist, she said, was that in order to be successful you have to cut off one of your burners. And in order to be really successful you have to cut off two.<p>[1] <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/08/24/laugh-kookaburra" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newyorker.com&#x2F;magazine&#x2F;2009&#x2F;08&#x2F;24&#x2F;laugh-kookaburr...</a>
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venomsnake超过 10 年前
A little side question - I love Serious Eats but after their last redesign there is no paging. So you just cannot browse to a certain point in time and then continue from there.<p>Am I missing something obvious?
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gozmike超过 10 年前
I met Tyson a few weeks ago at Arrogant Swine after the Brooklyn iOS Meetup.<p>I have to say, from what I saw that night at his restaurant I&#x27;m fairly certain he&#x27;s stumbled upon a formula that is going to work quite well. The place was jam packed, food was delicious and I&#x27;m still telling people about the meal and ambiance.<p>If you&#x27;re in NYC, definitely go check it out.
abbott超过 10 年前
Drove back from Brooklyn last night after celebrating my friend&#x27;s 40th at Arrogant Swine, and then I wake up to see this on hacker news. Crazy.<p>This restuarant appears out of nowhere in Bushwick&#x2F;warehouse district. Being a North Carolina native I was a huge skeptic walking in. Mr. Ho has an NC (and SC) flag on the wall, usually not a symbol of pride outside the state (even for me), but in the case of BBQ it&#x27;s respectable and makes a statement to anyone who know&#x27;s anything about pulled-pork BBQ.<p>If you&#x27;re ever in Brooklyn, definitely check it out. There&#x27;s something to be said about eating, drinking, and enjoying the vision of an entrepreneur. Impossible to do with your stereotypcial start-up.
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zachwill超过 10 年前
Great post, OP. I really love stories like this on HN — feel like I wouldn&#x27;t come across them through other channels. Thanks for sharing.
SixSigma超过 10 年前
On the subject of 11lb babies, more and more babies are being born <i>already obese</i><p><a href="http://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/big-baby-boom-supersize-deliveries-have-doctors-worried-f6C10921987" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nbcnews.com&#x2F;health&#x2F;kids-health&#x2F;big-baby-boom-supe...</a>
joshu超过 10 年前
It kills me that restaurants add all the value to the area but lose almost all of it to rent.<p>I wish I could design a town or something. Big tax break to landlords who house good restaurante long-term or or otherwise allow the restaurant to be profitable. Or maybe the town owns the town center or something.
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eriktrautman超过 10 年前
I really enjoy reading about the trials of entrepreneurs outside The Bubble on HN and this was a great piece of writing. The vignette about the dirt-loving sniper sucked me in.
kmttechnical超过 10 年前
An amazing story! Thanks for sharing so much of yourself! Best to you.<p>Angie
kevinqi超过 10 年前
It&#x27;s a bit windy, and there wasn&#x27;t too much in the way of &quot;how&quot;, but the story was well written - so a good read regardless.