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Open Whisper Systems partners with WhatsApp to provide end-to-end encryption

506 点作者 charlieok超过 10 年前

24 条评论

eyeareque超过 10 年前
I trust Moxie more than governments or companies, so this really makes me happy. If you&#x27;ve read things on his website (<a href="http://www.thoughtcrime.org" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thoughtcrime.org</a>) you&#x27;ll know how important remaining secure from the government is to him. This is a huge step in the right direction. I&#x27;d also like to congratulate WhatsApp on their decision, I have a lot more respect for them now.<p>Congrats Moxie and team. You guys are doing a great thing for humanity.
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higherpurpose超过 10 年前
Not only is this huge by itself (600 million users with E2E encrypted messages by default), but I&#x27;m <i>hoping</i> this will put a big pressure on Google, Microsoft and others to adopt TextSecure&#x27;s protocol (or something very similar), too.<p>This is how you deliver strong security to the masses. Not by convincing all your friends to adopt some weird and obscure chat app with the only benefit that it&#x27;s &quot;more secure&quot; (most won&#x27;t care), but by getting large service providers to adopt it and push it to hundreds of million of users without them even noticing.<p>Oh, and I assume that if Whatsapp adopted it, Facebook Chat isn&#x27;t too far behind...right?
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dmix超过 10 年前
Since this doesn&#x27;t seem to be ready to be fully announced yet, I checked last week and Open WhisperSystems is still looking for iOS developers to help. Moxie mentioned on twitter that security and crypto experience is not required, but they are looking for f&#x2F;t devs not just p&#x2F;t help.<p>Also they have a browser extension that could use some help from front-end devs:<p><a href="https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure-Browser" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;WhisperSystems&#x2F;TextSecure-Browser</a><p>It is still pretty early but the project has Bithub as well. From my understanding, this is their planned desktop version.
morsch超过 10 年前
The Verge had an article about this, whatever &quot;this&quot; is: <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/18/7239221/whatsapp-rolls-out-end-to-end-encryption-with-textsecure" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;11&#x2F;18&#x2F;7239221&#x2F;whatsapp-rolls-ou...</a><p>But that&#x27;s also 404 now, here&#x27;s a cached copy: <a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NAz9uOinm9QJ:www.theverge.com/2014/11/18/7239221/whatsapp-rolls-out-end-to-end-encryption-with-textsecure" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:NAz9uOi...</a><p>And here&#x27;s a copy of the article text: <a href="http://pastebin.com/Y5CUPqDJ" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;pastebin.com&#x2F;Y5CUPqDJ</a><p>They talked to Moxie about it, so it doesn&#x27;t look like a hoax. More like it wasn&#x27;t supposed be announced yet.<p>It goes without saying that this would be a <i>big deal</i>. And it would explain a lot of the slow movement w.r.t. an iOS client. Although The Verge wasn&#x27;t sure if and when the encryption would be available on iOS. And WhatsApp is closed source software, something that&#x27;s unlikely to change, which really isn&#x27;t what we want from a secure messenger. So I might keep Text Secure installed for the time being.<p>But still. OTR (and the enhanced&#x2F;modified version of it TextSecure is using) is probably the easiest to use way to communicate in a reasonably secure fashion, and it&#x27;d would be fantastic to see it used by hundreds of millions of users all of a sudden -- even if it&#x27;s sitting on top of insecure mobile operating systems and untrusted-yet-privileged hardware.
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furyg3超过 10 年前
&quot;[...] and our roadmap for our own products remains unchanged.&quot;<p>What is that roadmap? TextSecure for iOS is stalled...<p>Awesome for Moxie and team, his is huge news. But the world still needs a cross platform, open source, end-to-end encrypted platform... It&#x27;s just too important to trust Facebook with.
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lgierth超过 10 年前
Incidentally, the WhatsApp cofounder donated $1M to the FreeBSD foundation today.<p>The other link posted, theverge.com, is 404 as well, btw.
orblivion超过 10 年前
I don&#x27;t suppose they will open source the WhatsApp client as part of this. Assuming so, that sounds like a compromise for Open Whisper Systems.
justfane超过 10 年前
But wait... Didn&#x27;t Facebook Inc; Buy whats app for 19 billion? So does this mean Whisper Systems is working with &#x27;facebook&#x27; on this...? Maybe i&#x27;m wrong...
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MatthiasP超过 10 年前
If this is true and has no strings (backdoors) attached this is huge. This means end-to-end encryption for messages from more than half a billion people and an incredible privacy win compared to SMS usage. Brought to you by facebook.
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13超过 10 年前
Why do all of these services insist on you giving them your mobile number? Even Telegram, which claims to be the all giving god of encryption and privacy, insists on having it no matter what. It&#x27;s a massive barrier to entry which I&#x27;m not willing to cross, and I&#x27;m sure other people aren&#x27;t either.
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g8oz超过 10 年前
Great news, WhatsApp needs all the help it can get on security matters.<p><a href="https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eff.org&#x2F;secure-messaging-scorecard</a>
derwiki超过 10 年前
I recently tried WhatsApp alternatives that provided end-to-end encryption on Android (I use TextSecure, but only 1% of my contacts do). Wickr was the best, but a little too paranoid for daily use. WhatsApp has a better UI and sends messages faster. I would <i>love</i> to trust that their end-to-end encryption is legit, and WhisperSystems being involved helps, but.. seems I&#x27;m still skeptical.
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Spearchucker超过 10 年前
I need convincing. Facebook can&#x27;t monetize end-to-end encryption, and WhatsApp doesn&#x27;t ask before uploading my contacts. Encryption from the client to the server is a start, but there&#x27;s not enough here to make me use it.
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gonetone超过 10 年前
can&#x27;t find any official statement from WhatsApp anywhere. Most of the sources just cite Marlinspike.
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patcon超过 10 年前
This is so unbelievably awesome.
unicornporn超过 10 年前
So, does this mean that users of the Android TextSecure app (and perhaps even Signal for iOS) will be able to communicate with WhatsApp users?
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robmccoll超过 10 年前
So how does the initial key exchange work here?
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otoburb超过 10 年前
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therealmarv超过 10 年前
Also the article from The Verge went offline <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/18/7239221/whatsapp-rolls-out-end-to-end-encryption-with-textsecure" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;11&#x2F;18&#x2F;7239221&#x2F;whatsapp-rolls-ou...</a>
Tepix超过 10 年前
This is a huge improvement and I&#x27;m very glad that WhatsApp is going this route.<p>However, from my point of view, TextSecure isn&#x27;t there yet. The ideal solution should be decentralized, like XMPP. That makes gathering meta data so much harder.
thewarrior超过 10 年前
This is going to backfire big time on WhatsApp and get them banned from many countries like India , Saudi Arabia etc.
estefan超过 10 年前
...and once this is rolled out, they&#x27;ll add auto-deleting messages, et voila! Snapchat destroyed over night!
nodata超过 10 年前
First a million bucks to FreeBSD, now this? Keep it coming WhatsApp!
secfirstmd超过 10 年前
Amazing news!