btw, i highly recommend windsurfing for everyone here. it's one of the funnest sports i've ever tried and lots of other programmers seem to be involved (that i've met at least). very affordable to get started. people usually give away free but old long boards and sails from the 80s. they will get you going.<p>the windsurfing fit is also great, you feel good and a bit buzzed from the adrenaline rush. today i learned a jibe (a way to turn) that i practiced for 2 hours.