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Rocket vs. Docker and the Myth of the “Simple, Lightweight Enterprise Platform”

31 点作者 remmelt超过 10 年前

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agentultra超过 10 年前
It happens every time.<p>As soon as you hit an environment where there are &gt; 20 people using the system you need a plethora of tools and systems involved which remove the terms, &quot;simple&quot; and &quot;lightweight,&quot; from the specification.<p>Access control, authentication, auditing, operations... you can&#x27;t eschew complexity by ignoring it.<p>I&#x27;ve learned this time and again. If you start out with &quot;simple&quot; and &quot;lightweight&quot; you&#x27;re going to hit that &quot;enterprise wall&quot; and really pay the price of not considering those requirements up-front. The price of either re-writes or layers of out-of-band processes and tools for orchestrating light-weight systems that were not designed to be composed in such a way. It&#x27;s quite painful and terrifyingly complicated.<p><i>Update</i>: In the case of Docker&#x2F;Rocket... I think these are just early iterations. I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if even Rocket becomes bloated as they realize they cannot design for simplicity when complexity is a requirement.
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vidarh超过 10 年前
He&#x27;s setting up a nice strawman. I didn&#x27;t see anything in the Rocket proposal that implied they thought the things Docker wants to add aren&#x27;t <i>needed</i>, just that they object to the direction and want to be able to pick and choose from components that fit their purpose better, and want guarantees of interop through open formats etc.<p>Who is propagating this myth of the &quot;Simple, Lightweight Enterprise Platform&quot; to begin with? Some searches did not net me any references to that other than this blog post.
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bryanlarsen超过 10 年前
You&#x27;ve got your conclusions backwards. Docker is the one that&#x27;s trying to do things the simple way. Rocket embraces the Unix process model and philosophy. They don&#x27;t have to solve this particular security problem because it&#x27;s been solved over almost 40 years of Unix evolution.<p>The Docker simplicity is why they&#x27;ve had so much success. That&#x27;s how it started: as a tool to make using LXC simpler.
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antocv超过 10 年前
I cant read this whateveritis because the fonts are too gray&#x2F;white as the background.<p>Skimming through it, yes whatever you define as &quot;enterprise&quot; can fit your definition and whatever claim you are doing in the article or blog, can be fulfilled.
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