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A Teenager’s View on Social Media

488 点作者 nicksergeant超过 10 年前

58 条评论

themodelplumber超过 10 年前
This is weird; the author possibly met with the CEO of Snapchat more than once recently:<p><a href="https://twitter.com/thatswattsup/status/546018511902867456" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;thatswattsup&#x2F;status&#x2F;546018511902867456</a><p>&gt; Can&#x27;t wait to visit my friends at @Snapchat again tomorrow :D<p><a href="https://twitter.com/thatswattsup/status/545326840940740608" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;thatswattsup&#x2F;status&#x2F;545326840940740608</a><p>&gt; Loved hanging out with @evanspiegel yesterday, he&#x27;s one of the nicest and more genuine guys I&#x27;ve met. Thanks for having me @Snapchat!<p>...influencer? Hope not :(
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AndrewKemendo超过 10 年前
This is filled with gems that old farts like me (I&#x27;m 30) don&#x27;t have any idea about.<p><i>If I don’t get any likes on my Instagram photo or Facebook post within 15 minutes you can sure bet I&#x27;ll delete it.</i><p>Super interesting take - it&#x27;s as though they are posting not to show people stuff but to get people&#x27;s approval for what they are posting. Simple but critically different in my opinion.<p><i>Facebook is often used by us mainly for its group functionality.</i><p>Got it, so make a better group service and bring everyone to that.<p>One big thing I took away is that, assuming this is representative of the demographic, they seem to not mind using multiple applications for communications. So there really is the ability to pretty narrowly specialize with functions - something I think the older generation does backwards; we want to consolidate and make services a &quot;one stop shop.&quot;
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bgun超过 10 年前
<i>many have nailed this on the head. It’s dead to us.</i><p>The next few paragraphs then go on to describe Facebook as essential social plumbing. I think an FB product manager would be delighted to hear that Facebook is &quot;dead&quot; in this way.<p>This is <i>precisely</i> why the most successful social network of its generation was built, first and foremost, to be a platform rather than a cocktail party.
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0942v8653超过 10 年前
Here&#x27;s another teenager&#x27;s view on social media.<p>I don&#x27;t have an account for any of these, and I don&#x27;t want one. I have, let&#x27;s see, HN, GitHub, and Stack Exchange. Those accounts are my online identity, which I make sure is separate from my real identity. If you want to contact me, you can email me, or if you know me in real life, you can text me. I don&#x27;t feel smug about not having those accounts, but I&#x27;m not embarrassed either. Maybe it&#x27;s just because I don&#x27;t socialize with the &quot;normal&quot; people my age, or something else, but more people than you might expect understand when I say I don&#x27;t have an account. I don&#x27;t want them because they would be more of a time suck than the Internet already is, and no one really has trouble finding me.
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Rainymood超过 10 年前
20&#x2F;m&#x2F;europe<p>&gt;In short, many have nailed this on the head. It’s dead to us. Facebook is something we all got in middle school because it was cool but now is seen as an awkward family dinner party we can&#x27;t really leave.<p>What?<p>&gt;Snapchat is where we can really be ourselves while being attached to our social identity. Without the constant social pressure of a follower count or Facebook friends, I am not constantly having these random people shoved in front of me. Instead, Snapchat is a somewhat intimate network of friends who I don&#x27;t care if they see me at a party having fun.<p>I use snapchat to send funny images of myself to my girlfriend<p>&gt;WhatsApp- You download it when you go abroad, you use it there for a bit before going back to iMessage and Facebook Messenger, you delete it. I know tons of people who use it to communicate with friends they made abroad, but I feel like Messenger is beginning to overshadow it. For international students, however, WhatsApp is a pivotal tool that I’ve heard is truly useful.<p>Back here we use WhatsApp exclusively almost, fb messenger when we must<p>&gt;Tumblr is like a secret society that everyone is in, but no one talks about. Tumblr is where you are your true self and surround yourself (through who you follow) with people who have similar interests.<p>To me, tumblr is a place where hipsters post images from the internet, back on the internet<p>edit: added location, might be very relevant
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jinushaun超过 10 年前
Pretty much nailed it on the head:<p><i>If I could break down a party for you in social media terms, here’s how it would pan out:</i><p>* <i>On Snapchat, you post you getting ready for the party, going to the party, having fun at the party, the end of the party, and the morning after the party.</i><p>* <i>On Facebook you post the cute, posed pictures you took with your friends at the party with a few candids (definitely no alcohol in these photos).</i><p>* <i>On Instagram you pick the cutest one of the bunch to post to your network.</i><p>I said it then and I&#x27;ll say it now, FB screwed up when they pivoted to copy Twitter. FB was fun when it was more private. Zuck should&#x27;ve realised that once there was a critical mass of news reports of teens getting in trouble for stupid FB and Twitter posts, teens would dump the service.
hugs超过 10 年前
Also noteworthy that Google+ didn&#x27;t even get a mention, even if to mock it.
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fideloper超过 10 年前
People&#x27;s take on Twitter is always fascinating.<p>I didn&#x27;t really get it at all either, until I followed people relevant to my interests. Now I can&#x27;t live without it - it&#x27;s an amazing source of material.<p>Not sure if that translates to industries outside of tech or not. It&#x27;s both a source of learning and revenue. Having an audience on twitter literally™ makes me money on eBook sales and other things I do. It&#x27;s a great place for &quot;organic targeted marketing&quot;, so to speak.
Anechoic超过 10 年前
Piggybacking off bcRIPster (now down voted) post, I&#x27;d be curious to know the race of the teen author and if the preferences he observed are the same across others with different ethnic and racial background. Among my 30-something and 40-something circle I&#x27;ve noticed that most of my white and Asian friends tend to utilize Facebook more while most of my black friends tend to use Twitter more. Instagram seems more evenly split.
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swalsh超过 10 年前
I have never felt so old reading a post :D<p>What I find interesting is the stark contrast to people&#x27;s predictions from years ago. I can recall the speculation about how in a world of facebook our lives will be documented forever, and the problems that will cause. That very real concern seems to not only have been well received, but they seem to be taking precautions. Unexpected, but very encouraging!
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daigoba66超过 10 年前
&gt; In this part Facebook shines- groups do not have the same complicated algorithms behind them that the Newsfeed does. It is very easy to just see the new information posted on the group without having to sift through tons of posts and advertising you don&#x27;t really care about.<p>That part resonates with me, and I&#x27;m not young. I was an early Facebook user (2003-2004 when I was a college freshman) way before the news feed existed, and way before it starting &quot;algorithmically&quot; filtering and sorting. I&#x27;ve always hated it.
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stinos超过 10 年前
<i>The content on Instagram is usually a higher quality. People take time to edit their photos with filters, different brightness&#x2F;contrast settings, etc. ... This means the content on Instagram is normally “better” (photo-wise)</i><p>That&#x27;s the OP&#x27;s personal experience of course, mine is sort of the opposite: facebook has all sorts of crappy pictures, instagram has those as well but made even worse by having applied all kinds of filters most of which appeal ugly to me. Tumblr on the other hand I consider as a source for decent&#x2F;pro material (as in, actually beautiful pictures taken with proper cameras). Maybe all this is because of who I&#x27;m following though.
arethuza超过 10 年前
For another single data point I asked my 15 year old son a few months back about what social media platforms he uses and was rather surprised to have him answer &quot;Facebook is for old people&quot; - which probably means over 20.
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scottmwinters超过 10 年前
Really interesting views on people disliking but still using Facebook. I was walking around my college&#x27;s campus a few years ago and overheard a girl saying &quot;well, he doesn&#x27;t have a facebook, so thats kind of a huge red flag to me. I dont think I&#x27;m going to keep talking to him&quot; Funny what an animal social media has become...
balls187超过 10 年前
Am I in the minority by thinking a 19 year old college student is not what people think of when they hear &quot;teens?&quot;
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jcrawfordor超过 10 年前
Okay, I&#x27;m 22, that&#x27;s not much older than this guy. I know a lot of 18 and 19 year olds. How does it look to me?<p>Facebook: most people use this primarily, but about 1 in 5 people does not because they object to pervasive surveillance&#x2F;got frustrated by the newsfeed reordering&#x2F;dislike Zuckerburg personally&#x2F;are just asocial. Facebook Messenger is the main way of communicating with people who have it. You also use it to communicate with people who don&#x27;t have Facebook Messenger by the indirection of using Facebook Messenger to talk to someone who might have their phone number. Instagram: I know a total of maybe two people that use this at all, and they have their content copying to Facebook which is where most people see it I think. Twitter: Not a lot of people use this, with the curious exception of the Facebook objectors, who mostly use this. Snapchat: I know a few people who use Snapchat but I don&#x27;t think anyone takes it seriously. Of course that&#x27;s kind of the point. General assumption is that snapchat users are trading dickpics and just not sharing with the rest of us. Tumblr: A lot of people are tumblr users but in sort of a &quot;guilty pleasure&quot; way, you don&#x27;t discuss it with people you&#x27;re trying to win the respect of. Perception is that it&#x27;s mostly [furry]porn and SJWs. Admittedly this is roughly correct. Yik Yak: Took the campus by storm. Most people use it exclusively to either complain about faculty, ineffectively try to find a date, or to make fun of the former two. Openly mocked, but in the way that makes other people install the app just to see what&#x27;s being joked about, so I guess that&#x27;s a social strategy. Medium: Maybe a handful of CS majors even know what it is.<p>Yeah, I go to a small engineering school and my social group is primarily in CS. I&#x27;m sure this impacts my experience a lot. This is exactly my point: I think social media&#x2F;application&#x2F;etc usage is far too specific to social groups, institutions, and even geographical areas for it to be remotely useful to work off of anecdotes. Here Facebook is absolutely king, but I can imagine a &quot;trendier&quot; population (not Engineering students) might have a certain ire for it. I think Instagram isn&#x27;t widely used just for lack of having achieved critical mass in this particular student body, there may (and probably will) come a day when that changes.<p>This is probably part of why &quot;what teens are into&quot; reporting seems so ridiculous. It&#x27;s based on a shallow look at one group of people, and behavior varies far too much between groups. Broad statistical data would be far more useful for marketing purposes, but the results would still ring hollow for many specific peer groups.
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efa超过 10 年前
&quot;Facebook is dead to us but we use it for X,Y, and Z.&quot; I found this kinda funny. Obviously it&#x27;s not dead to you if you use it for a variety of purposes. Seems like friends I have with teenage kids are mostly on Facebook. Now it may not be their primary outlet. But &quot;dead&quot; seems to be a bit of an exaggeration.
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experimentsin超过 10 年前
I wonder if the teens who favour Instagram and Snapchat today will nevertheless age into people who get more out of Facebook as they get older.<p>When you&#x27;re young, most of the people you know and think about are still right there around you and you see them almost every day. You haven&#x27;t left too many people behind yet. But that changes quickly over time and an increasing proportion of the people you know and care about, the ones you met at a particular place and time in your life, are no longer close by. Being able to keep in touch with those people&#x27;s comings and goings and relationships and family lives to the (relative) depth afforded by Facebook probably becomes more attractive and more valuable.<p>So although Facebook may be losing its original stomping ground to simpler, more targeted alternatives, perhaps both Facebook and its active user base are maturing together.
simbilou超过 10 年前
&gt; I only know a handful of people (myself included) that believe Snapchat does delete your photos. Everyone else I know believes that Snapchat has some secret database somewhere with all of your photos on it.<p>It takes a special kind of stupid to even consider the idea that the photos are _really_ deleted.
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bluedino超过 10 年前
When I heard &#x27;teenager&#x27; I was thinking 13&#x2F;14. Like a middle school or young high schooler, not a college freshman.
supercanuck超过 10 年前
Why is everyone seemingly falling over themselves in a rush to discredit this guy?
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VLM超过 10 年前
He uses facebook as a directory service occasionally, the same way us &quot;old people&quot; use linkedin.<p>Observationally my kids are a little younger than him and facebook is dead to them. My wife is still addicted. They used to complain about family tagging them in pix (especially embarrassing-ish such as anything from when they were little) and now they don&#x27;t even care, nobody uses it.<p>&quot;Not too many people talk about it.&quot; - thats not pinterest, thats reddit and 4chan. Everyone is on baconreader and clover, and just like fight club, rule one is no one talks about fight club (or 4chan or reddit).
dysoco超过 10 年前
17&#x2F;M&#x2F;Argentina<p>I&#x27;m not really into Social Networks, I guess you can tell by the fact that I&#x27;m on HackerNews. However I can provide some insight in what&#x27;s the panorama in the other half of the world.<p>Facebook is still king, everyone uses it, everyone has it. I use it exclusively for groups (school group, friends group) since it&#x27;s easy to post questions or info in there and make sure everyone reads it. I also use it to chat with people (although via Pidgin, I barely go to facebook.com). I do see however a huge ammount of traffic in my feed. So I guess it&#x27;s not going anytime soon.<p>Whatsapp is <i></i>hugely<i></i> popular. Everyone uses it, even for work related stuff. I&#x27;m not sure why it&#x27;s not as popular in the US&#x2F;Europe (I guess because of iMessage?) But calls&#x2F;SMS are barely a thing, everything is Whatsapp now. Sadly, I&#x27;m not a big fan of it, it&#x27;s great for sending quick messages and talk something in a group, but people here use it for <i></i>everything<i></i> which means I have to get my hands off the keyboard and type in a tiny touch screen to talk with someone. You usually get randomly added to Whatsapp groups too, where you get invited to parties and stuff like that, I&#x27;m not a big fan of this either, since it&#x27;s really easy to miss a message. However, I reckon my social life has improved considerably since I got Whatsapp because of all the invites I get now.<p>Twitter has gotten very big lately too, I started using Twitter about 3 years ago, and I mostly use it to follow tech people and get news, probably the same way most of you use it. However, my friends use it as some kind of Facebook. They tweet <i></i>everything<i></i> they are doing, and they also maintain conversations using it. I think this is silly, I don&#x27;t know why they do it, you can know everything about someone by just reading his Twitter feed.<p>Instagram is not huge but it&#x27;s catching up. It&#x27;s mostly used by girls and hipster&#x2F;cool&#x2F;popular guys (not sure how to describe them). I never go there and I really don&#x27;t care.<p>Snapchat&#x2F;Tumblr&#x2F;YikYak are not even thing, heck, I don&#x27;t even know what YikYak is supposed to be.<p>I wish more people would start using IRC, but well, I guess that&#x27;s not happening.
tambourine_man超过 10 年前
I wonder if I&#x27;d have a Facebook if I was a teenager today.<p>It&#x27;s hard enough not having one now, and even though I was never one to give in to social pressure, I wonder if it would be simply unbearable.
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ergl超过 10 年前
22&#x2F;m&#x2F;europe here<p>- Facebook<p>Everyone uses it and there is peer pressure for you to have it. Everyone talks about deleting their account but never does. I rarely use the website or the app but I use Messenger everyday to talk with foreign friends (mostly in the US)<p>- Twitter<p>Used to have an account a few years ago, but it just wasn&#x27;t my thing. Extremely popular though its ux seems to have dropped a lot<p>- Snapchat<p>Not really a thing, most people I know barely know it exists. Used it for a while a year ago but it was a fad for me.<p>- Tumblr<p>Not really a thing anymore for me, but it seems to be really popular for people between 12-16<p>- Instagram<p>I might be the minority here but I mainly use it for photography. Has replaced Flickr and Tumblr for me<p>- Whatsapp<p>#1. SMS charges were too expensive until a few years ago so it exploded (I think we are the biggest market in europe now, so you might guess where I&#x27;m from). Biggest downside is the lack of group control, you can get added to any group without your permission and it is &#x27;poor form&#x27; to leave. I have a couple of them on mute and rarely read them.<p>- Telegram<p>Seems to be gaining some use since Whatsapp got acquired by Facebook though I personally don&#x27;t use it. Seems redundant to have two IM apps when everyone is on Whatsapp anyway
0xCMP超过 10 年前
Models most of my use, however I like WhatsApp a lot. I used it when I still had a Windows Phone (iPhone 6 now) and I needed a better messaging app that went over the web than facebook because I had horrible service on campus. It&#x27;s a very capable, simple, reliable (or used to be anyways), and feature filled messaging app which I wish more people used. iMessage does most of what WhatsApp does though for talking to iOS users and it has a desktop app so I use that more now.<p>I almost refuse to use facebook except to share select photos&#x2F;videos privately (only me + tagged people) and message people who I haven&#x27;t talked to in a while. Groups are usually never useful and I use other things.<p>Twitter is great, tumblr is good but not for me, snapchat isn&#x27;t for me (too obvious you&#x27;re taking a photo of your self), and instagram still makes me feel the facebook &quot;it&#x27;ll never die on the internet once uploaded&quot; scary feeling.
X-combinator超过 10 年前
<i>Many of those younger than me (10–16 years old) who I&#x27;ve talked to about this matter don’t even have a Facebook — Instagram is all that they need.</i><p>As a 15 year I totally agree, but Hacker News is one my favorites site because I just love discovering new things on the web(That&#x27;s the only reason I visit HN)<p>Also Facebook simply &quot;Stinks&quot;
paulhebert超过 10 年前
While an interesting article I&#x27;d take it with a grain of salt and not try to make generalizations about others&#x27; social media use.<p>The author seems like he&#x27;s on the high end of social media use.<p>As a 22 year old male I check Facebook occasionally to see what my friends and family who live in different areas are doing, and that&#x27;s about it.
warp_超过 10 年前
I&#x27;m amazed how many people here say &quot;everyone is on facebook&quot;. Edit: Maybe it&#x27;s like that because you&#x27;ve molded your social circles to fit those of your own socioeconomic status?<p>From my closest 20 friends (all of them I&#x27;ve known for 5+ years), 7 use facebook, most of them use IRC and the rest are on WhatsApp. I&#x27;ve never made any new friends through facebook, as a matter of fact, the posts made by people on facebook push them further away from me, because I&#x27;m a cynical bastard and their shameless self-promotion is disgusting to me and I see through their bullshit.<p>To me, facebook always seemed like a public display window of your life, to show off those old high school classmates that nowadays you live in the cool downtown hipster district and you&#x27;ve gotten laid. Nothing to do with actual friendships or socializing.<p>24&#x2F;m&#x2F;finland
rorydh超过 10 年前
&gt; &quot;Another point: tagging. I don&#x27;t have to constantly check Instagram to make sure I wasn&#x27;t tagged in any awkward or bad photos. That’s because you can&#x27;t see them on my profile, making the whole experience seem way more private.&quot;<p>The fourth tab on every Instagram profile allows you to see just this...
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sozh超过 10 年前
Is NOT sharing even an option with a dozen social networks to chose from?<p>I wrote a response to bring up some important questions that Andrew&#x27;s article brought up.<p><a href="https://medium.com/@sozh/the-sunset-question-1855a3ed80d" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@sozh&#x2F;the-sunset-question-1855a3ed80d</a>
niksethi超过 10 年前
As a slightly younger teen (17), I have a completely different view of Twitter. I&#x27;m not sure if it&#x27;s unique to my specific area, but quite a significant number of the people around me are on Twitter and use it to communicate funny things they see, or just share opinions (I guess the author approaches this with &quot;complain&#x2F;express yourself&quot;). To me, I go on twitter to see what people are saying about any given event, especially sporting events. At other times, I will find memes or jokes or just anything that is somewhat funny. Overall, the three groups that Andrew brings up aren&#x27;t really complete.
onedev超过 10 年前
To be fair he did say these were all just anecdotes. He just phrased the descriptions in a way that seems &quot;matter of fact&quot; and everyone seems to be taking that and running with it.<p>For example, as someone else in here mentioned, this is more like &quot;A North American Teenager&#x27;s View of Social Media&quot;.<p>I bet he hasn&#x27;t even heard of QQ, which has over 1 billion users. His lack of understanding of WhatsApp says a lot because as someone else mentioned WhatsApp has the least penetration in North America, but everywhere else it&#x27;s the lifeblood of online social interactions.
krmboya超过 10 年前
&gt; WhatsApp- You download it when you go abroad, you use it there for a bit before going back to iMessage and Facebook Messenger, you delete it. I know tons of people who use it to communicate with friends they made abroad, but I feel like Messenger is beginning to overshadow it. For international students, however, WhatsApp is a pivotal tool that I’ve heard is truly useful.<p>Perhaps the title should have been &#x27;A North American Teenager&#x27;s view of Social Media&#x27;<p>Edit: Minor re-wording
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thomasfoster96超过 10 年前
I really don&#x27;t like these &quot;Teenager&#x27;s view of social media&#x27; type posts. All of them make the mistake that teens only have time for two or three apps and that the teen demographic is very homogenous. I get a little disappointed when a post like this then gets reported as the demise of Facebook, because that&#x27;s not really an accurate observation.<p>Looks like I better write a response post.
omg_ketchup超过 10 年前
I&#x27;m 30 and I use GChat&#x2F;Google Talk&#x2F;Hangouts (they&#x27;re all the same thing) all the time. So does almost everyone I know. Haven&#x27;t seen it mentioned here.<p>We don&#x27;t really care if that data gets exposed to&#x2F;by the NSA. It&#x27;s mostly like &quot;I&#x27;m off today whats up&quot; or &quot;Want to hit the bar after work?&quot; type stuff.
k__超过 10 年前
In Germany I got the feeling that most younger people rather use WhatsApp for its group functionality, than Facebook.
eastbayjake超过 10 年前
&gt; &quot;I have yet to ever hear of a hot post on Secret that everyone’s talking about&quot;<p>I get the feeling Secret&#x27;s redesign strategy is just being Yik-Yak for the post-college crowd. I&#x27;d imagine the location data is more valuable&#x2F;marketable for working people in big metro areas than incomeless students.
the_duck超过 10 年前
&gt;The only time I ever hear this application is for the joke, “Aye you got Kik?”, normally seen as someone trying to “spit game” to attract a partner. It’s really difficult for me to describe it here but it isn&#x27;t super relevant.<p>This paragraph is mystifying. Can someone explain what he&#x27;s talking about here?
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FollowSteph3超过 10 年前
I wonder how the usage progresses as you age. What&#x27;s important at 15,20,25, and beyond are different. Not different demographics but the same people as they age through the different demographics. In other words how consistent would the diffeent media options change with time....
hellbanner超过 10 年前
Another anecdote for file: I spoke with an early-twenty business student, also studying in Texas. Snapchat and GroupMe were their preferred chat programs.<p>I personally prefer WeChat for its Group Voice chat. This was developed in Shenzhen; Mandarin is notably tonal so voice is a selling point.
zeeshanm超过 10 年前
I can see why group service is popular among teenage crowd these days. One of my friends who is in school has college wide fb group to ask questions about classes, etc. I have seen her mostly being active in groups when logged into fb.
brianstorms超过 10 年前
My response:<p>A 1980 Teenager&#x27;s View on Social Media <a href="https://medium.com/@brianstorms/a-1980-teenagers-view-of-social-media-eaf8a5fdbf6c" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@brianstorms&#x2F;a-1980-teenagers-view-of-soc...</a>
harisamin超过 10 年前
This is actually a really refreshing post. I have to give Yik Yak another try. Secret didn’t do much for me. But its always important and interesting for peeps to see what’s going on, even if we’re getting old :)
chki超过 10 年前
It is interesting to see that for example in Germany WhatsApp is really the most important chat and group discussion instrument -- ahead of all other messengers. I wonder where this difference comes from...?
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Matth3wMarshall超过 10 年前
Wow, this is the truth! I hope the product guys at these places are reading.
ajcarpy2005超过 10 年前
I&#x27;m surprised that with all those less popular social networks listed, Google+ was not. I&#x27;m pretty sure Google+ has a higher user &#x27;population&#x27; than YikYak, WhatsApp, GroupMe, etc.
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neue超过 10 年前
The Twitter point doesn&#x27;t make much sense.<p>As a senior in high school, I see nearly everyone having a twitter account and using it pretty often. It&#x27;s pretty popular.
Maken超过 10 年前
Reading this article makes me feel old. I&#x27;m just on my twenties and the only service mentioned in that article in which I have an account is WhatsApp.
dgcoffman超过 10 年前
Just tried Yik Yak after reading this. In SF&#x27;s FiDi, appears to be mostly dudes looking for gay hookups. Am I doing it wrong?
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hnriot超过 10 年前
Just shows how shrewd Zuck was in acquiring Instagram.<p>This post is exactly in line with what I see my daughter and her peers doing.
huangwei_chang超过 10 年前
I am curious that if they don&#x27;t write things about them on FB, how could they find out who one is on FB?
revelation超过 10 年前
An <i>American</i> Teenager&#x27;s View on Social Media<p>There, much better now.
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bcRIPster超过 10 年前
While it&#x27;s an interesting article, I think he&#x27;s being a bit hyperbolic in translating his local experience out to a generalization.<p>This isn&#x27;t simply a 19 year olds experience. It is a white, suburban, middle-class, male attending a conservative university in a culturally regressive state. If nothing else, he&#x27;s about as radically distant from an urban minority as you could get to the point where I&#x27;d imagine it is really impossible for him to have any perspective into other demographics and how they use these tools. I value his opinion, but it&#x27;s important to take it into context.<p>Atleast he attempts to hedge his lack of experience in his opening statement.
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kmicklas超过 10 年前
20 year old college student in the US here. He got a lot of things very right, but also from my experience some things very wrong:<p>Instagram: No one uses it. Maybe 10% of students have one and those that do spend little time on it.<p>Facebook: It&#x27;s not as uncool as it sounds. If anything it&#x27;s had a resurgence lately. Maybe people post less content to their profile these days, but post on each other&#x27;s timelines and use the messaging system more than ever. As smartphones and connectivity continue to improve, there&#x27;s less and less incentive to use texting over Facebook. Also, I don&#x27;t know what he&#x27;s talking about with groups. No one uses those.<p>Snapchat: I would say it is currently the biggest one. (People spend more <i>time</i> on Facebook but <i>care</i> more about Snapchat.) However it seems to be losing momentum at this point. Since introducing the story feature, there has been a constant and continuous shift away from the original, more personal uses and towards a more Twitter like document of daily occurrences through stories. Less back and forth dialogue, less creative art, etc. People are also fed up with ads and gimmicks like messaging and sending money (???).<p>GroupMe: Never heard of anyone using anything but Facebook for this purpose.<p>Venmo: Not sure if it really qualifies as a social network but it&#x27;s trying to and it deserves mention. Everyone loves documenting their restaurant expenditures and there seems to be a strong culture of wittiness in generating the captions.
RandallBrown超过 10 年前
This kid doesn&#x27;t even know that when he uses WhatsApp or Instagram, he&#x27;s using Facebook.
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javajosh超过 10 年前
I find this all exceedingly strange - why should we care about a teenager&#x27;s opinions, right or wrong? Kids don&#x27;t make money, and they spend relatively small amounts of parent&#x2F;student-loan money. Moreover, all signs point to a difficult job market for new graduates, kids moving back home for extended periods, etc, so the argument that they will <i>soon</i> spend money doesn&#x27;t resonate. Why then is this demographic so coveted? Heck why do these kids have smartphones at all?<p>I begin to suspect that youth-obsessed culture is actually a temporary phenomena. The reason it happened in the 90&#x27;s and 00&#x27;s was that this was the dawn of the consumer internet, and college kids were the first adopters (a fact that is itself a confluence of educational theory and the enthusiasm&#x2F;capability of computer science academics)<p>Against this, we could say that college kids are a better demo for this stuff because they are so <i>pure</i>, in the sense that they aren&#x27;t constrained by jobs or other income production - so they are at a magical junction between <i>articulate</i> and <i>irresponsible</i>, like having a society of our own &quot;id&quot;s running around. If we can please them in their primordial state, then surely that will have resonance in the hearts of the middle-aged who&#x27;s youthful lusts still exist under rocky layers of life&#x27;s harsh requirements.
jolid超过 10 年前
I like that he&#x27;s less concerned with a company storing his Social Security Number (or credit card, name, address... things governments&#x2F;companies ALREADY HAVE) than the photos and thoughts he&#x27;s choosing to share only with his closest friends.<p>Dunno how to quote: I only know a handful of people (myself included) that believe Snapchat does delete your photos. Everyone else I know believes that Snapchat has some secret database somewhere with all of your photos on it. While I will save that debate for another day, it is safe to say that when photos are “leaked” or when there’s controversy about security on the app, we honestly do not really care. We aren&#x27;t sending pictures of our Social Security Cards here, we&#x27;re sending selfies and photos with us having 5 chins