<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8870456" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8870456</a><p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8879182" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8879182</a>