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The Theory of Interstellar Trade (1978) [pdf]

132 点作者 dirtyaura超过 10 年前

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AceJohnny2超过 10 年前
I believe cstross&#x27;s book Neptune&#x27;s Brood is based on ideas from this paper.<p><a href="http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2014/09/crib-sheet-neptunes-brood.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.antipope.org&#x2F;charlie&#x2F;blog-static&#x2F;2014&#x2F;09&#x2F;crib-she...</a><p>Which is funny, considering older Krugman&#x27;s a fan of Stross&#x27;s other book series The Merchant Princes, which also tries to have a solid economic backbone.<p><a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/11/more-science-fiction-for-economists-seriously-time-wasting/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;krugman.blogs.nytimes.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;05&#x2F;11&#x2F;more-science-fic...</a>
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numlocked超过 10 年前
This is by Paul Krugman??!<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Paul_Krugman</a><p>That this is written by a Nobel Prize winner and NYT columnist definitely makes it a bit more noteworthy.
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nabla9超过 10 年前
Krugman loves science fiction. He said that he wanted to stydy psycohistory described in the Foundation series, but chose economics because it was the closest thing you can actually study.<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychohistory_%28fictional%29" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Psychohistory_%28fictional%29</a>
andrewflnr超过 10 年前
It seems to me that the scariest part of doing interstellar finance is the concern that the institutions that, say, enforce bonds (or otherwise give them meaning, I&#x27;m not sure of the mechanics) will disappear sometime during your round trip. A lot can happen in 50 years, much more in a 500 year interstellar round trip. I would expect interstellar trade to stick with &quot;real&quot; goods only for this reason.
kbenson超过 10 年前
Submitted multiple times before, but here&#x27;s the only one I saw with comments, in case some finds something interesting.<p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=818706" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=818706</a>
DavidSJ超过 10 年前
See also Relativistic Statistical Arbitrage: <a href="http://www.alexwg.org/publications/PhysRevE_82-056104.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.alexwg.org&#x2F;publications&#x2F;PhysRevE_82-056104.pdf</a>
GregBuchholz超过 10 年前
More interesting is what resources or products would be potential candidates for interstellar trade.
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aswanson超过 10 年前
Interesting. Krugman has said that he got interested in economics because it was the closest thing in reality to psychohistory as described in Asimov&#x27;s Foundation series. Of course, any society capable of interstellar trade would be beyond scarcity and hence economics as we know it. But fun, nonetheless.
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geoffreyhale超过 10 年前
&quot;It should be noted that, while the subject of this paper is silly, the analysis actually does make sense. This paper, then, is a serious analysis of a ridiculous subject, which is of course the opposite of what is usual in economics.&quot;
crimsonalucard超过 10 年前
I&#x27;m actually more interested in the theory behind how he got a grant to write this. Interesting nonetheless!
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stox超过 10 年前
Did you know that if you took all the economists in the world and lined them up end to end, they&#x27;d still point in the wrong direction?<p>s&#x2F;world&#x2F;interstellar trade routes&#x2F;
widowlark超过 10 年前
Its interesting to me that this is written by Krugman. I am glad to see that he has read The High Frontier, Its one of my personal favorites.
BerislavLopac超过 10 年前
This is essentially The Martian of the pre-Internet era.
java-man超过 10 年前
Where is Figure II?
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happyscrappy超过 10 年前
&quot;This paper extends interplanetary trade theory to an interstellar setting. It is chiefly concerned with the following question: How should interest charges on goods in transit be computed when goods travel at close to the speed of light? This is a problem because the time taken in transit will appear less to an observer traveling with the goods than to a stationary observer. A solution is derived from economic theory, and two useless but true theorems are proved.&quot;<p>He goes on to say this work may have some galactic relevance and that the force is with him.
unknown_apostle超过 10 年前
He&#x27;s so funny and smart, and yet guys like him are one of the bigger obstacles on this planet to accumulating enough capital to finance space exploration. Makes you think...