Luna – Hack your sleep

This looks really cool. I wonder though if my bed would not then be dependent on your servers at some point as I consider such a product as a long-term investment. For example, can it live without the server-side aggregation? Would you consider opensourcing parts of the server to enable people to use their own servers in the long run? Would you consider adding a respectable API that follows the ideas of for example, the philips hue? <a href="http://www.developers.meethue.com/philips-hue-api" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.developers.meethue.com&#x2F;philips-hue-api</a>

My first instinct (being the geek that I am) upon seeing this was it looks great. And having lived in England the majority of my life, with cold houses and heating turned off at night - heated underblankets are a necessity.<p>But as I read through the feature list, I couldn&#x27;t help feel uncomfortable. Am I the only one that finds this deluge of technology into every aspect of our lives abhorrent?<p>Every single day billions of people stare into a screen. You can control your whole life on it. Your lights can come on when you come home (Hue), the temperature indoors is regulated (Nest), and now my partner and I can have regulated heating on either side of the bed. Those who have watched Black Mirror will see where I&#x27;m going with this.<p>I can&#x27;t help feel that while there is nothing wrong with this product - in fact it&#x27;s kinda cool - is it really something the world needs?<p>Anyway, best of luck to the team. It seems like a good product. You can&#x27;t please everyone :)

I&#x27;ve noticed my sleep quality is strongly correlated with my room temperature, but being in a moderate climate I find that I need my bed and room <i>colder</i> to sleep better. Looks like this only provides heating.

If any of the creators are reading this, is there any chance you&#x27;re going to be making this in a hacker-friendly way? I&#x27;ve been contemplating making something sorta like this myself (although much less ambitious) and I&#x27;d really like to be able to integrate it into other smart things that I have going in my house.<p>Also, just out of curiosity, what are you using for the WiFi connectivity? I&#x27;ve been playing with a bunch or the new embedded stuff and like to know what people are actually using.<p>EDIT: Also, cool, I was the one to push it over 100K: &quot;You raised the campaign total to: $100,008!&quot; I feel special.

I know the founding team (3 out of 4 are Italians like me, all living in SF), and as a disclaimer, I am an early angel investor in the company.<p>I have tried the product in its alpha version, and have followed the progress thus far. I think that what Luna is trying to achieve is extremely important. In fact, I have decided to invest because I thought that improving someone&#x27;s sleep is going to have a huge impact in his&#x2F;her life.<p>I am not aware of any other product that is qualitatively similar to this. If there are, let me know :)<p>Good luck, guys!

What research has been done to show this actually has a beneficial effect on one&#x27;s sleep? I ask because there are many &#x27;lifestyle&#x27; type of products that get advertised, and sound good, but only seem to have anecdotal evidence to support their claimed benefits.

JT from Tuft &amp; Needle here. I met with Andrea and the team last year. They are solid. The big difference with this tech is that it can actually impact the way you sleep as opposed to just reporting data points.<p>When you sleep badly you usually know it in the morning. A wristband telling me isn’t that useful. A tool that actually helps you fall asleep and stay asleep provides significantly more value.

Seems really cool but I felt my internal warning sign go off when I see the team is mostly comprised of marketers&#x2F;managers&#x2F;growth. Three engineers in an eight person team. It can still be a good product but I&#x27;ll wait until it&#x27;s on the market for some real reviews.

Shawn from Beep here. We&#x27;re super pumped to be integrating with these guys. As someone who wakes up almost every single night either overheating or freezing this product is near and dear to my heart and I personally can&#x27;t wait to get mine.

This looks great. I backed a project called Beddit which is similar, but just a single strip that measures your breathing and heart rate, but it never worked very well for me. Part of the problem was it required opening up the application and connecting to the Bluetooth sensor every. damn. night. [1][2]<p>The only way I can integrate quantified self gadgets into my life is if they are totally hands-off, passive data collectors. I don&#x27;t want to charge a fitness tracker every night and remember to put it on in the morning. The best I can do is remember stand on my Withings scale a few times a week.<p>[1] <a href="http://www.beddit.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.beddit.com&#x2F;</a><p>[2] <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/beddit/id794968897" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;itunes.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;beddit&#x2F;id794968897</a>

The hardware (including a bed warmer that is 100% guaranteed to not set your house on fire), controller software, sleep-tracking software + mobile apps, all for US$100k? Either we haven&#x27;t learned anything from previous crowdfunding nightmares, or they have another source of funding.

This says it integrates with smart home stuff from the given companies, but how does it actually do that? What sort of features are actually available?<p>Also, the partner logos should really be links. I have no idea what Beep or Emberlight even are.

Sorry but I don&#x27;t support indiegogo projects any more. There are more scam projects than real ones out there and the indiegogo team doesn&#x27;t give a shit about it. This makes me sad, because I like the idea of crowdsourced projects. But there needs to be a platform either side can trust which indiegogo is definitely not because scam projects attract more people and so they make more money with them.

This is pretty cool tech--if the smart alarm system works as advertised it would replace a lot of poorly-performing manual processes I currently undergo myself. Make a version with no heating element that can run on a battery and I&#x27;ll buy it.<p>Make a version that has active cooling and I&#x27;ll buy 2 and wear the extra to work.

&gt; SECURE AND PRIVATE<p>&gt; Luna is completely secure and uses public key cryptography. Its security features include HTTPS, SSL, and 128-bit encryption.<p>What does a mattress need HTTPS for when it is private? Something does not add up there for me.<p>edit: Sorry, I missed the mobile phone controller etc. So I guess this does not phone home?

Putting this technology in the mattress cover is great. Kudos to you.<p>I&#x27;m pretty sure I&#x27;m not in the target market, though, and that this would do nothing to improve my sleep. The number one reason I sleep or don&#x27;t sleep is whether or not my babies sleep :)

We have a queen mattress with a pillowtop - so its taller than a standard queen. Would this work with the queen size Luna product?<p>It likely wouldn&#x27;t reach the bottom of the mattress, but it seems like that shouldn&#x27;t be a big deal.

I&#x27;ll tell you what: this device is great, really<p>BUT: a microphone where I and my wife sleep and have sex? you either put an HARDWARE switch to turn it off (or even better, permit me to unplug the cable) or not gonna happen in my house

Just happened to be reading HackerNews at the right time and got myself a Queen at the Early Bird price!<p>I see you&#x27;ve already answered that the mattress cover itself cannot vibrate, and that the alarm will actually be through the app.<p>Rather than increasing the volume of the alarm gradually, I&#x27;d much prefer being woken up like geoelectric by my phone vibrating or perhaps triggering another wifi enabled alarm that vibrates.<p>1) Will your app make the phone vibrate as your alarm goes off (perhaps with increasing intensity as you get closer to your waking time)?<p>2) Does anyone know of a wifi enabled vibrating alarm that could be put under a pillow?

Anyone know how the alarm works? I&#x27;ve been using a vibrate-only alarm on Sleep Cycle with the phone under my bottom sheet to avoid waking my partner. Can this be configured in the same way somehow?

Question for the creators:<p>I have small children who wake me up almost every night at inconsistent times. Am I going to get much benefit out of a Luna, or are my broken sleep habits going to render Luna less effective?

I didn&#x27;t know you can &quot;hack&quot; something by buying a product.

Dang, I just bought a dual zone heated mattress cover. Absolutely love it except for the fact that it&#x27;s all manual; you can&#x27;t turn it on remotely or schedule on and off times (although it automatically shuts off after a fixed 10 hours). I often go to bed later than my wife, so have to sneak in to the bedroom 15 minutes before bed to turn my side on (or leave it on unnecessarily, or get into a cold bed, defeating the whole purpose).<p>This is actually less expensive than the one we bought, and obviously much more feature rich.

I love this idea. I used to use an electric mattress pad to have a nice toasty bed to get into. Combining that low-tech device with motion sensors and wifi connectivity is outstanding.<p>Just the ability to automatically log when you go to bed and when you get up is nice, from a lifelogging perspective. Add the ability to have a much more accurate picture of when you&#x27;re asleep and when you&#x27;re awake than any wrist band could provide, and couple that with the alarm functionality. Very neat.

Since I can&#x27;t find it anywhere on the site or the IndieGogo page [1]: how much of this works now, and how much is just an idea? Is there a video of the &quot;pre-manufacturing prototype&quot; in action? Pictures? Anything?<p>[1] <a href="https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/luna-turn-your-bed-into-a-smartbed#shipping" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.indiegogo.com&#x2F;projects&#x2F;luna-turn-your-bed-into-a...</a>

I need one of these in a Twin XL size.<p>(I can&#x27;t be the only nerd who needs an 80&quot; long bed, but doesn&#x27;t have enough room for anything wider than a twin.)

How much does the efficacy of this device dip when you share a king sized bed with your significant other and two 25-ish pound dogs?

This looks incredible! I&#x27;ve been waiting for this product for a while now. If we had a different upvoting system (<a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2015/01/trade-quarks-not-votes.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.overcomingbias.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;01&#x2F;trade-quarks-not-votes...</a>), I&#x27;d use all my upvotes on this article.

I think think of few funny ideas using their open API and data. Late night achievement unlocked!

Just started a technical AMA: <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2u3q93/iama_cto_of_a_startup_building_a_hardware/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;IAmA&#x2F;comments&#x2F;2u3q93&#x2F;iama_cto_of_a_s...</a>

I like the idea and the price isn&#x27;t too bad either on it&#x27;s own, but then I would have to get wifi lamps and a wifi coffee machine and a wifi door lock... I think I&#x27;ll pass for now

A good night of sleep is invaluable to the performance of any athlete, especially serious athletes. Extremely positive feedback from all my athlete friends. Good luck guys!<p>Disclaimer: Proud investor in Luna :)

Polyester, how wonderful. Any benefit this provides is cancelled by using polyester instead of some good breathable material. I think I&#x27;d rather use a &quot;dumb&quot; wool cover.

Tiny thing: with the first picture I see on the web page showing a bed cover, I immediately assumed incorrectly that luna was a bed cover, not a mattress cover hidden out of sight.

The cover itself is made entirely out of synthetic materials which has implications for quality of sleep. I love the idea but the cover portion needs to be natural fibers IMHO.

I&#x27;ve seen this come up from just an idea to full-on production and these guys know what they&#x27;re doing.<p>Was pretty impressive to see them hacking and soldering stuff in their apartment!

I hope this can also be available in Euro bed sizes. We can&#x27;t get King &amp; Queen here in Nordics but rather 160x200, 180x200 or 180x210 (as people are tall)

Pity I didn&#x27;t hear about it before it came on Hacker News. King size is sold out! :(<p>Anyone knows about other similar initiatives?

I need to get one of these for my casper to have a fully start-up sourced smart sleeping system

Anyone cares to explain how the &#x27;alarm&#x27; works? The website doesn&#x27;t say much.

How does the sleep phase sensor work? I&#x27;m assuming it can&#x27;t read brainwaves...

Really a great idea! Unfortunately, you lost me at &quot;proprietary technology&quot;…

In this way, they&#x27;ll be able to know how many times you have sex per week ;)

Amazing idea. It could be used for addressing many respiratory system illness.

Find it hard to believe a mattress can track sleep quality accurately, and in order to aggregate information about your day gathered from other sources and do something useful with it they would need a very complex ML backend, which I doub a mattress company has.

Will body temperature be available as a metric graphed over time?

Finally a well marketed connected product for colder climates!!

Great, now my mattress can get hacked.

What, no My Little Pony references? Oh wait, this is HN, not reddit...