Laravel 5 released

There&#x27;s an article specifically about the release here:<p><a href="https://laravel-news.com/2015/02/laravel-5-released/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;laravel-news.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;02&#x2F;laravel-5-released&#x2F;</a><p>It might be a better way to get an overview of this release as it links to various other articles about v5.<p>An article specifically on the changes:<p><a href="https://laravel-news.com/2015/01/laravel-5/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;laravel-news.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;01&#x2F;laravel-5&#x2F;</a>

After using Laravel 4 for an internal company tool I have a hard time recommending it (sadly, I was hopeful). I found the docs to be uneven in quality&#x2F;scope, some key features (mostly around the ORM) missing and the &#x27;feel&#x27; to be slightly off.<p>It&#x27;s hard to quantify, but I have used CakePHP, Yii, Rails (0.9 through 4), Django and plenty of home-grown &#x27;frameworks&#x27;. From all those the most cohesive and understandable to me was Rails followed by Yii (surprisingly).<p>Maybe it&#x27;s the docs or structure, but Rails and Yii have a strong opinion and it seems their developers have both CS smarts and industry experience, which shows in the structure and code.<p>I&#x27;m sure in time Laravel will mature and improve. Currently it just feels like there&#x27;s a lot more hype than it merits.

If you&#x27;re new to Laravel or want to learn more check out <a href="http://Laracasts.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;Laracasts.com</a>. Jeff Way does a great job. (Just a fan&#x2F;current subscriber).

Laravel represents what modern PHP can do and be. Clean, organised, fully object-oriented. Kudos to what Taylor Otwell has created both from a marketing perspective and technical standpoint.

Having watched Laravel 5 throughout development, I&#x27;m personally unhappy with the fact that most of the nice features of Laravel have been removed.<p>For example, the default version of Laravel 4.x shipped with the &quot;Whoops&quot; PHP stack trace view, which is far superior to the L5-default Symfony stack trace view. Other features were removed too, including the HTML library. Blade tags were changed for no reason.<p>Overall, it feels like instead of adding requested features, Taylor decided to redesign the architecture for no reason.

I really like Laravel, it makes getting things started easier. I am glad I finally have a good way to manage my assets from within Laravel so that I don&#x27;t have to deal with all of that myself every time. The only thing I find Laravel lacking is Web Socket support and every time I tried to implement something I would basically give up and switch to Node.js. Is there anything that can get web sockets working in Laravel?

I love the `Architecture Foundations` section in documentation [1]. I wonder why more frameworks don&#x27;t do this. It happens a lot that I have no idea where to put files when I start with some frameworks. I am still not sure how good it is but I am reading through it right now.<p>[1] <a href="http://laravel.com/docs/master/providers" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;laravel.com&#x2F;docs&#x2F;master&#x2F;providers</a>

I tend to use Laravel when the client&#x2F;project forces me to use PHP rather than Rails. It&#x27;s not bad when coming from the Rails world.<p>I also have a bit of pride that it&#x27;s made in Arkansas. Yes, we have computers and the internet here.

Laracasts has a series of introductory screencasts on Laravel 5: <a href="https://laracasts.com/series/laravel-5-fundamentals" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;laracasts.com&#x2F;series&#x2F;laravel-5-fundamentals</a>

I&#x27;m a fan of Symfony but love that there are several advanced frameworks pushing the state of the art forward (Symfony, Laravel, ZF2).

What are the main advantages of Laravel over say Cake or Symfony?

More info: <a href="http://laravel.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;laravel.com</a>

For those currently using Laravel, here are some upgrade guides due to the large changes from 4 -&gt; 5<p><a href="http://laravel.com/docs/master/upgrade" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;laravel.com&#x2F;docs&#x2F;master&#x2F;upgrade</a><p><a href="http://mattstauffer.co/blog/upgrading-from-laravel-4-to-laravel-5" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;mattstauffer.co&#x2F;blog&#x2F;upgrading-from-laravel-4-to-lara...</a>

Looks like some links are broken. For example <a href="http://laravel.com/docs/authentication" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;laravel.com&#x2F;docs&#x2F;authentication</a> redirects to -&gt; <a href="http://laravel.com/docs/4.2/authentication" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;laravel.com&#x2F;docs&#x2F;4.2&#x2F;authentication</a> which is 404.

Deal-breakers for me with Laravel:<p>- Blade templating language. I don&#x27;t need yet another templating syntax to learn, especially one that isn&#x27;t analogous to others I know and are common among other frameworks.<p>- I really can&#x27;t imagine going back to an active record based ORM. I&#x27;ve learned too many hard performance lessons from Doctrine1 and rails at this point.<p>- Facade&#x2F;proxy pattern based classes. I think as they are implemented in the actual framework, these are done correctly. However, I think the userland understanding of this pattern is often lacking and leads to a lot of glorified singletons that are some how touted as acceptable because they call them facade&#x2F;proxy based.<p>In the giant lineup of frameworks, ranging from something as simple as SlimPHP or silex, all the way to enterprise targeted frameworks like Zend Framework 2, I just don&#x27;t see why I&#x27;d ever pick Laravel as the go-to solution in any use case.

Ive been so excited about this! Though I kinda miss the call to action buttons that they had on the old site. Scrolled down the page looking for the quickstart button before I had a &quot;duh&quot; moment and clicked on documentation.

Bad to see, Laravel still doesn&#x27;t have an LTS version. Upgrading is a pain.

Awesome news, been expecting this since a mysterious twit last week, Laravel is awesome, can&#x27;t wait to check v5<p>thanks!

i dont want to depend on a framework by one person.

Can you really write beautiful code in PHP?