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Ask HN: How to deal with the pain of receiving payments when living in Ukraine?

8 点作者 amativos超过 10 年前
Hi. I live in Ukraine and work for an american company as a programmer. I receive money via a wire transfer every month, in addition to the 10% transer fee I am faced with ridiculous policies every time. The bank I&#x27;m using requires all money to be exchanged to UAH on every transfer, using a very low exchange rate. If I then need dollars, the only option is to exchange the money back but this time using a crazy high exchange rate. In the end I lose about 35% on every transfer and deal with lots of pain in the butt that comes with it.<p>I&#x27;m not experienced with this kind of stuff, but I imagine there must be a better way to receive money. Perhaps it would be possible to create a bank account in the US or Europe and then withdraw the cash at 1-2% fee? I would really appreciate any suggestions.<p>Thanks.

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TimSchumann超过 10 年前
Sounds like you&#x27;re getting a pretty raw deal. I wonder how common problems like this are. Anyway, here&#x27;s some thoughts on the matter.<p>You probably thought of these:<p><pre><code> Find a new bank in Ukraine that will allow you to hold USD denominated deposits. Find a bank in the US that will allow a nonresident to open an account. Find a bank in another country with USD denominated deposits. </code></pre> I&#x27;m not sure if the inverse problem is true, but I know that as an american creating a bank account in another country can be a headache. Mostly due to compliance issues with US federal regulations. Maybe that&#x27;s the case all around, I&#x27;m not sure. There is no real incentive for any country to do anything but force their particular brand of kool-aid on you so I&#x27;m guessing it&#x27;s going to be hard to find anywhere outside the US that allows someone of average means (read not really rich) to keep funds on deposit that aren&#x27;t denominated in local scrip.<p>Might not have thought of these:<p><pre><code> Bitcoin (Yes, Seriously) Trusted Friend or colleague Other Financial Instruments like stocks, bonds, money market accounts </code></pre> Also, just a reminder to do your own due diligence on the legal aspects of all of this wherever you&#x27;re operating.
jhildings超过 10 年前
Bitcoins and then sell them on sites like localbitcoins and then purchase things you can (like tech equipment) for them online also
vdaniuk超过 10 年前
Opening a bank account in the EU for an Ukrainian citizen is quite problematic. There are several alternatives.<p>Open an offshore bank account in British Virgin Islands, etc. You can go the digital citizenship route in Estonia. <a href="https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/become-e-citizen-estonian-digital-society/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cryptocoinsnews.com&#x2F;become-e-citizen-estonian-di...</a><p>Payoneer. An option used by many freelancers in ex-CIS to get payment from US&#x2F;EU <a href="http://www.payoneer.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.payoneer.com&#x2F;</a>