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StackOverflow Considered Harmful?

99 点作者 codingthebeach超过 10 年前

21 条评论

_m7bj超过 10 年前
Here&#x27;s the thing about stack overflow:<p>How many people have worked at a location that has blocked stack overflow?<p>Because I have worked with an organization of about 2500 people, not all of which were IT. One day, management went on a mad whitelisting crusade and blocked about 98% of the internet, including the stack exchange network.<p>IT ground totally to a halt, across all our branches. No programming, no sys-admining, no help desk.<p>Stack overflow is not a programmer social network, and it is not a Q&amp;A site.<p>It&#x27;s the new textbook. Developers and sysadmins used to keep hundreds of kilos of dead tree libraries with them because only the textbooks contained the arcane knowledge like &quot;component X was actually not implemented properly, and will crash under Y circumstances&quot;. Languages and libraries never advertise that on their website.<p>Post-stack-overflow developers and admins use stack-overflow as their source of kooky corner cases and badly explained concepts documentation. They don&#x27;t have or need the dead tree books.<p>So considered harmful? In my experience any IT staff who say they don&#x27;t rely on stack overflow are lying.
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blt超过 10 年前
I like Stack Overflow. I agree with many of its criticisms, but I still think it&#x27;s a huge gain for the programming community overall.<p>I think the worst aspect is the endless &quot;your premise is flawed, you should do &lt;this&gt; instead&quot; answers. I often formulate toy examples, or ask questions out of curiosity rather than practical need. Somehow, users always latch on to the irrelevant part of my question instead of answering the part I care about. It&#x27;s gotten to the point where I put big disclaimers in my questions to steer users away from those useless (to me) responses.<p>I got so annoyed with this pattern that I now consciously avoid writing anything that&#x27;s not a direct answer to the user&#x27;s question. I wish others would do the same.
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DennisP超过 10 年前
Considering that whenever I google a programming question, the most useful answer is generally on StackOverflow and at the top of the search results, I have a hard time considering it harmful in any way. It might not be perfect, but I don&#x27;t know anything better.
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foobarbecue超过 10 年前
What a strange rant.<p>First of all, this guy continued answering and asking questions since he published this article, so I guess he changed his mind about deleting his account. <a href="http://stackoverflow.com/users/2189331/jdevlin" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;stackoverflow.com&#x2F;users&#x2F;2189331&#x2F;jdevlin</a><p>Secondly the italic bits about how he should be allowed to delete questions because he created the content make no sense. All SO questions and answers are collaboratively created so he can&#x27;t claim ownership.<p>I agree the moderation is out of hand, and it should be easy to delete your account (but what&#x27;s this about a link that &quot;got misclicked&quot;)?
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fl0wenol超过 10 年前
Meta-comment:<p>I am so over titles of the form &quot;* considered harmful&quot; when it has something to do with someone&#x27;s opinion and IT&#x2F;computing.<p>Please just stop.
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redthrowaway超过 10 年前
This sounds like a similar problem to Wikipedia: great resource, bad community. I&#x27;ve never been active in the SO community, and am no longer active in the WP community, so my experience with both is as a read-only resource. Both are excellent in that regard.
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phirschybar超过 10 年前
When I look at the previous alternative of experts-exchange.com vs SO, I am so grateful to have a free site like SO. The gamification of it is simply a BETTER alternative to it being a pay-walled garden.
BigChiefSmokem超过 10 年前
I can&#x27;t say this wasn&#x27;t unexpected. I&#x27;ve read so many useful questions on there that were seemingly derailed by the mods and people complaining to the mods in the comments section. I understand their point of view about the strict QA format. That&#x27;s their business model and it&#x27;s how they became who they are, but not listening to your core audience begging you to reform your policies is a clear sign of stagnation and complacency.<p>Leaves them wide open to be dominated by a newcomer.
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robusto超过 10 年前
Junk title, but you can apply this article&#x27;s critique to many communities in general (especially online ones with a myopic user base). On the whole, the StackExchange sites contain a wealth of information that&#x27;s readily accessible and can&#x27;t be duplicated easily. There&#x27;s certainly room for competition that&#x27;s not just a plain forum, but what that looks like I&#x27;m not sure.<p>&quot;Harmful&quot; though? Have we already forgotten &quot;experts-exchange&quot; so soon?
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Shog9超过 10 年前
FWIW, I personally scheduled his account for deletion weeks ago; not sure why it wasn&#x27;t removed, other than that the system thought he canceled the deletion (which we allow, because deletion is permanent).<p>We&#x27;re working with him now to figure out what happened.
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pnathan超过 10 年前
I came to similar conclusions in 2010 or so; I had gotten a fair number of points whiling away my hours as a help desk TA in my CS department, I then got a job, asked some questions about Perl, and then faded out. Then as I realized money making was - broadly - absent from SO, it became clear that the digital sharecroppers were what was fueling whatever money making venture it would turn out to be.<p>As the community moderation approaches began to migrate from the lighthearted to the grim-faced bureaucratic, I migrated away.<p>While I <i>have</i> derived value from SO, I derive more value today from reading documents and manuals than I do from StackOverflow questions.
hnwoj超过 10 年前
I have a love(70%)-hate(30%) relationship with SO. Pros: - someone often had a long time ago the same problem as I have, the are 14 answers I can shop in. - I learned a few concepts just because so many people were referring to them (comprehensions in Python for instance - magnificent) Cons: - incredible ego of some, punishing what they feel bring &quot;wrong&quot; with coward, anonymous downvotes - someone always knows better what I want to ask, even though my question is well-researched. It is well researched exactly bacause I want to fend off these guys, but they are still there, lurking in the shadows :)
halayli超过 10 年前
SO is like an advanced news group. Once you post something it&#x27;s there forever because they publish their DB every month and it&#x27;s up for grab and copying.
Spooky23超过 10 年前
To sounds to me like the guy acted like an arrogant jerk, and a mod or bunch of mods has a low tolerance for such behavior.<p>SO is a victim of its own success, it&#x27;s too big and has a DMV like user experience. But if you act like a jerk, you shouldn&#x27;t expect a warm response.
nvivo超过 10 年前
I had this problem with forums before. As I requested my content to be removed from a site, my account was suspended and they actually reposted some stuff I had deleted, and blocked my account. I lost the right to my content, even though my name was still there. It was just a small dev forum, so it wasn&#x27;t a big deal.<p>But it&#x27;s funny because when you join those sites, they make it clear that any content you may find in their website is not their responsibility, as they are just a place for people to express their opinions, and any texts you find are owned by it&#x27;s authors. But once you don&#x27;t want your opinions there anymore, suddenly your texts become their texts and you&#x27;re a dick for preventing them from making money of your content.
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kevin_thibedeau超过 10 年前
SO is much more pleasant if you stick to the less populous niche tags where there isn&#x27;t a race to get the first answer, pompous mods, and other negative side effects of gamification.
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TheLoneWolfling超过 10 年前
My biggest frustration with StackOverflow is the massive splitting, combined with the restrictions on low-karma (i.e. new) accounts for subsites.
chrismcb超过 10 年前
My biggest problem with SO is the number of questions that are closed as off topic. Thankfully they were answered before being closed
jusio超过 10 年前
This article should be titled &quot;StackOverflow Rep-Whoring Considered Harmful?&quot;
cheshire137超过 10 年前
I still don&#x27;t understand what this guy&#x27;s on about.
enlightenedfool超过 10 年前
why care about badges&#x2F;scores. Just contribute, help and get help. It&#x27;s great for just that. I find answers to 70% of programming questions I have.
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