We begin therefore where they are determined not to end, with the question whether any form of democratic self-government, anywhere, is consistent with the kind of massive, pervasive, surveillance into which the Unites States government has led not only us but the world.<p>This should not actually be a complicated inquiry.<p><a href="http://snowdenandthefuture.info/events.html" rel="nofollow">http://snowdenandthefuture.info/events.html</a><p>Surveillance is not an end toward totalitarianism, it is totalitarianism itself.<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/europe-24385999" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/europe-24385999</a>