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China drops leading technology brands for state purchases

92 点作者 peeyek大约 10 年前

14 条评论

contingencies大约 10 年前
OK, I&#x27;ve lived in the US but now live in China, where I once lived right down the road from a Huawei office. Recently, I was visiting my birthplace of Australia and met a friend who now manages IP networks for (one of?) the largest mobile data providers in the country. He said they were about to buy Huawei gear as it was cheaper and as featuresome as they required. Then the government came to visit. They said, you&#x27;re welcome to buy it but there&#x27;s no guarantee your licenses will be renewed. Of course, they didn&#x27;t buy it.<p>There&#x27;s a lot of this government and intelligence pressure on infrastructure providers going on. The general public is not informed. The situation appears to be global.<p><i>Our secret intelligence culture and process is antithetical to democracy, and enabling of plutocracy, neo-fascism, and the total corruption of our government.</i> - Robert David Steele, ex-Marine, ex-CIA, Open Source Intelligence Expert, &#x27;The Open-source Everything Manifesto&#x27;<p>A lot of the US capacity to break in to networks seems to come from just being aggressive paying individual hackers to sell them exploits out of public view. Some of these people have said to me &#x27;I know it&#x27;s unethical, but it&#x27;s what I enjoy and I&#x27;m good at - the only other market is organized crime&#x27;. It&#x27;s a constant digital arms race where the public loses. Hopefully the governments of the world will realize the futility here and begin to redirect resources toward open source systems.
UnclePeepingSam大约 10 年前
&quot;China drops leading NSA partners for state purchases&quot; might be a better title
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acd大约 10 年前
I do understand their security concerns though having read part of what the media reports of Edward Snowdens revelations.<p>I think some things China are doing some things that is worth a WTO investigation. For example that you cannot put up IT with media services in China without a local partner and a license from the Chinese state. Then surprise the local China partner may end up copying your services intellectual property. However Chinese companies are free to put up business in the West without local partners. That is unfair competition!
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smoyer大约 10 年前
It could be that the Chinese government has legitimate security concerns - or it could be a convenient excuse to exercise some protectionism using an illegitimate excuse.<p>Either way, pressure on US companies to not blindly fall in step behind the US government is a good thing.
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alfiedotwtf大约 10 年前
Get used to it. Watch Germany do the same in the future too.
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tormeh大约 10 年前
No Windows. How cool wouldn&#x27;t it be if there was a single place on earth where they didn&#x27;t have a monopoly on OSes for generic x86?
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kryptiskt大约 10 年前
Good, if they can&#x27;t get any orders from the Chinese government, they have less reason to dance to China&#x27;s pipe.
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MollyR大约 10 年前
This is really interesting not just from the security angle. I read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Bad-Samaritans-Secret-History-Capitalism/dp/1596915986" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Bad-Samaritans-Secret-History-Capitali...</a> this book recently. It talks about how South Korea became an technological powerhouse so quickly compared to their neighbors. China could be using the security fears, and protectionism to create their own version of silicon valley. It wouldn&#x27;t really surprise me, as some US cities like Boston are trying to create their own silicon valley styled area&#x27;s <a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/view/516586/crowding-into-biotechs-densest-supercluster/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.technologyreview.com&#x2F;view&#x2F;516586&#x2F;crowding-into-bi...</a>.
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invaliddata大约 10 年前
Not just China, but most of the world should have reservations about buying us products after recent revelations, but China has long had both covert and overt measures to disadvantage foreign competitors in all industries. These brands already had big hurdles due to the highly protectionist atmosphere in China, I do not think this change will be of any real significance.
SlipperySlope大约 10 年前
I would be great if an independent lab would certify equipment and software as spyware free.<p>And it would be great if one could buy insurance to that effect on equipment and software.<p>The NSA has done great economic damage to US exports of software and IT equipment. I suppose that US government oversight of the NSA takes that into account.
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chinathrow大约 10 年前
Can&#x27;t blame them, really.
dang大约 10 年前
Url changed from <a href="http://qz.com/351256/its-official-china-is-blacklisting-apple-cisco-and-other-us-tech-companies/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;qz.com&#x2F;351256&#x2F;its-official-china-is-blacklisting-appl...</a>, which points to this.
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happyscrappy大约 10 年前
This should give European tech companies a chance to get back in the game.
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kjs3大约 10 年前
Which is worse? Using a product possibly compromised by the US government, or using a product built with stolen technology possibly compromised by the US government, subsidized by a government whose surveillance state the NSA can&#x27;t even aspire to.