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Uber hauls GitHub into court to find who hacked database of 50,000 drivers

86 点作者 p8952大约 10 年前

11 条评论

parfe大约 10 年前
Uber publishes secret key.<p>Uber ignores security breach for half a year.<p>Uber sues third party while trying to repair damage caused by their own failings.<p>At this point the identity of the hacker is irrelevant. The data is in the wild, Uber is exposed as incompetent (again). But hey, anyone want to invest another billion at a 40 billion valuation? This company is going places.
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kyledrake大约 10 年前
Protip: It&#x27;s not illegal to throw out IP address data, as there are no mandatory retention laws in the United States. Then if you get a John Doe subpoena, you have no useful information to supply.<p><a href="https://www.eff.org/issues/mandatory-data-retention/us" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eff.org&#x2F;issues&#x2F;mandatory-data-retention&#x2F;us</a><p>Neocities currently scrambles stored IP addresses with scrypt, and (soon) after 30 days, we intend to delete those IP hashes. It&#x27;s legal. Consider doing it.<p>Here&#x27;s the code we used to do it: <a href="https://github.com/neocities/neocities/commit/4983a9b24eac00b8d8bfd300a18cdcee0152a271" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;neocities&#x2F;neocities&#x2F;commit&#x2F;4983a9b24eac00...</a>
rayiner大约 10 年前
Nitpick: the title implies that Uber is suing Github, but that&#x27;s not the case. Uber has a civil suit pending in N.D. Cal., and has issued Uber a third-party subpoena: <a href="http://regmedia.co.uk/2015/02/28/ubergithubexhibit.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;regmedia.co.uk&#x2F;2015&#x2F;02&#x2F;28&#x2F;ubergithubexhibit.pdf</a>. Such subpoenas are used when a third party might have information relevant to a pending lawsuit. They do not imply any allegations of wrongdoing against the third party.
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TeMPOraL大约 10 年前
&gt; <i>In keeping with its image as a gas tank of ethics running on empty (...)</i><p>This is the best one-sentence summary of Uber I&#x27;ve ever seen.
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headcanon大约 10 年前
So let me get this straight - They&#x27;re publishing a secret key on a Gist, and then getting whiny when it <i>somehow</i> gets leaked.<p>Github <i>very</i> clearly states that &quot;secret&quot; gists are NOT private: <a href="https://help.github.com/articles/about-gists/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;help.github.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;about-gists&#x2F;</a>
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jgrowl大约 10 年前
Asking for every IP address that accessed a public gist seems like a bit of an overreach to me. Github should also have the responsibility to protect its lawful users&#x27; data.<p>It seems reasonable though to request some user data for a specific IP address that Uber suspects as being the invader (depending on how strong the evidence is).
shawnhermans大约 10 年前
When these types of things happen, I notice a strong &quot;blame the victim&quot; mentality. When Sony was hacked, I saw similar comments about how it serves them right for having bad security. Some people even go as far as to praise the hacker and think they shouldn’t be held accountable for their crime. After all, if Uber didn’t want this, they wouldn’t have made themselves so vulnerable to penetration.<p>While I agree companies like Uber and Sony need to invest more time and energy into security, real people are hurt when these types of things happen. It isn’t the executive-level “fat cats” who are hurt the most. It is normal, everyday people. They did not ask for their personal information to be stolen. Their only crime was working for a company with poor information security.<p>Furthermore, the fact Uber issued a subpoena for information from Github does not make Uber the bad guy for requesting the information and Github the good guy for withholding the information. A crime was committed and this is part of the investigation. The information requested by Uber is not unreasonable. They are basically requesting log files for that specific Gist.<p>Channeling my inner Matthew McConaughey from A Time to Kill, imagine this happening to an organization that is more likeable than Uber or Sony (shouldn’t be that hard). What if this happened to an organization responsible for helping rape victims and this person leaked the private information of rape victims to the Internet? Would people be so willing to support the criminal? Would people be so eager to praise Github for not cooperating?<p>Just because Uber is a horrible, unethical company does not mean it isn’t protected under the law. We shouldn’t condone crime just because we don’t like the victims.
alexbilbie大约 10 年前
Would there be any consequence for Github themselves if they no longer had this data (for example in the hypothetical case that they only store access logs for 30 days)?
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swang大约 10 年前
Didn&#x27;t some court rule that IP addresses are not people? So they get these IPs and sue them just like the MPAA&#x2F;RIAA failed to do? I guess maybe some have usernames...?<p>Also super shady they don&#x27;t bother to explain why it took them almost 5 months after they discovered it to notify anyone.
sergiotapia大约 10 年前
Does Github have any obligation to share this data with Uber?
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sarciszewski大约 10 年前
You guys really need to learn to use <a href="https://defuse.ca/b/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;defuse.ca&#x2F;b&#x2F;</a><p>Even better, use makepaste.sh<p>Using &quot;secret&quot; gists is just reckless, really.