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Early Retirement in the N.F.L. and at Google, and the Paradox of Success

91 点作者 yagibear大约 10 年前

12 条评论

mathgeek大约 10 年前
&quot;At the same time, there is a depressing message for the rest of us: Maybe the fact that you would even consider retiring to a life of luxury at a young age is a sign you aren’t going to succeed at a high enough level to make that an option.&quot;<p>Now wait a second... didn&#x27;t the author just finish talking about diminishing utility? This sounds like the mindset of someone who really doesn&#x27;t understand just how little it takes to work and&#x2F;or retire comfortably. The vast majority of people don&#x27;t need to travel the world in a private jet to enjoy retiring luxuriously in their 50&#x27;s (or in most cases even earlier).
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mark_l_watson大约 10 年前
I am more like Mr. Money Mustache. When I was 47 my wife and I sold a nice house just north of the Del Mar Race Track, and moved into a tiny but really nice house in Sedona Arizona. Major downsizing.<p>As it turned out, I got bored in retirement and in the last 15 years I have written a bunch of books, consulted for some great companies like Google, but the difference is that I have had a lot of freedom now, and probably averaged less than 10 hours per week, not including writing, in the last 15 years.<p>I have to admit to a lot of curiousity about how Google&#x27;s CFO will do after a few years of leasure - I hope he enjoys his travels!
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kriro大约 10 年前
&quot;&quot;&quot;The real question is not why these four men are all retiring&quot;&quot;&quot;<p>I disagree. NFL players on average retire for very different reasons than Google execs. It may not be the case for the recent retirees but even if you are fully healthy it&#x27;s really risky to keep playing in the NFL (concussions alone, check health premiums of NFL players etc.). Many players should probably retire earlier. It&#x27;s a lot better to enjoy less money than to have more money and Alzheimers or the like at age 50.<p>+it&#x27;s more likely that NFL players that retire early kind of have a good feeling for how many more high level seasons they could have played. At least I&#x27;d think it&#x27;s easier to judge the capabilities of your body than the capabilities of your mind. (QB&#x27;s are the exception, I guess Locker could have stayed around as a journeyman for a couple of years and made relatively safe money holding a clipboard). I don&#x27;t have any evidence but I also suspect some of the surprise early retirements may be ralted to PED use and&#x2F;or uncertainty if that can be kept up &quot;undetected&quot;. At least it&#x27;s reasonable to think this is the case for a higher %age than in other fields.<p>tl;dr: apples, oranges. NFL retirement is extremly different from most other forms of retirement. The high level abstraction of &quot;retired but didn&#x27;t have to&quot; is at least somewhat questionable.
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Htsthbjig大约 10 年前
Wow, Shocking news!! People want to enjoy the money they have earned ...<p>I have a company and have rich friends, this is completely normal, people do what they always wanted to do when they get money. It is called &quot;financial independence&quot;.<p>I read and write on HN(for other people a waste of time) because I like it, and because I can. I travel just because I can. I work on projects that probably will not make money(and end making the most money of all because nobody risks doing it) just because I can.<p>What is really a Paradox is that when you start doing what you really want to do,instead of what others tells you to do, you could start making more money than ever.<p>You are not a slave of money. It is a common belief of people living in NY. People earning a million dollars a year but spending half of that in a condo.
lettergram大约 10 年前
Personally, I am trying to work as hard as I can so I can start a company. Even if I had $5 million I would probably keep pushing myself to ensure I had what I felt I needed to achieve my goals.<p>Money lets you purchase other peoples time, it&#x27;s boosts your productivity, and if you can hire someone to build you something you can do ever greater things.<p>Although this is just my motivation, I am sure most of the highly productive or motivated people feel the same way. They want to do something great, and they know they have to work to get there.
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Sone7大约 10 年前
&quot;Presumably America’s companies are better run when the most talented executives put in a 50-year career than if they put in only 20 or 30.&quot;<p>Are we talking about the executives most talented at increasing shareholder profits, or executives most talented at improving people&#x27;s lives? To put it another way, there&#x27;s a lot of good reasons we put term limits on politicians, why are business executives different?
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brandonmenc大约 10 年前
Jason Worilds is retiring so he can devote more time to his religion, the Jehova&#x27;s Witnesses.<p>I don&#x27;t necessarily disagree with the author, but another reasonable explanation is that successful people like their jobs, and in the absence of larger pursuits, like religion, they see no reason to move on. Retirement in and of itself isn&#x27;t the &quot;prize&quot; for every single person.
hacknat大约 10 年前
I actually wonder how common it is to retire early? First of all what is &quot;early&quot;? If it is before 65 then a good number of people do.<p>Getting to the spirit of the article though, a good chunk of the people that I know who don&#x27;t &quot;have to work&quot; anymore, don&#x27;t, or do so infrequently. I think it is rare indeed for someone to become a billionaire or hundred-millionaire without the manic drive that this article speaks of, but I do know plenty of millionaires who either don&#x27;t work or take it very easy.<p>It actually would make sense that a lot of millionaires wouldn&#x27;t work anymore. Presumably they make most of their money in a one-time deal (i.e. their company gets sold), if they were a solid software engineer, etc at said company it might not seem worth it to go back and work another company doing CRUD. Maybe the right opportunity comes along, maybe it doesn&#x27;t, but why pressure yourself if you don&#x27;t &quot;have to work&quot;.
cjbprime大约 10 年前
It&#x27;s strange to see the author come to this conclusion (fierce drive is necessary for high income, and as a result prevents early retirement) without trying it out on anyone. Why not just ask executives who are still at Google why they do it, and mention what the most common responses were?
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peter303大约 10 年前
I dont understand all this &quot;retirement&quot; anxiety. Anyone with half a brain can find a job&#x2F;lifestyle they&#x27;d love doing forever and save enough money not to have to worry about it. Why fritter away you life on activities you hate?
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jim4000大约 10 年前
How am I supposed to take a person writing about the NFL seriously when he or she puts periods in between the letters?<p>This is a mediocre article, at best.
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michaelochurch大约 10 年前
Money isn&#x27;t about money. It&#x27;s about status and power for many people.<p>That&#x27;s different from being ambitious in general. I probably wouldn&#x27;t stop working if I made $20 million, but I&#x27;d work differently. I&#x27;d take more risks, play less politics, and be able to focus more due to fearlessness. I, however, don&#x27;t view work for work&#x27;s sake as being valuable. When I&#x27;m 55, I might decide that it&#x27;s time to do more traveling and less working.<p>There are, however, a lot of people who see money as &quot;life&#x27;s scorecard&quot; and that leads them astray, because ultimately optimizing for that one factor is (beyond a certain point) astronomically stupid. If you enjoy your work, keep at it. But a lot of these people don&#x27;t. When you look at why they keep going, though, it turns out that they&#x27;re not really into the work or the money themselves but the status that come with them. A surprising percentage of people don&#x27;t really care what it is they do, so long as they can use a private jet to do it.