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Why salaries don’t rise

48 点作者 altern8大约 10 年前

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ap22213大约 10 年前
Software development is supposedly a high-demand skill. And, I hear that companies can&#x27;t seem to hire anyone qualified. I still get dozens of recruiters contacting me, each week. Yet, with all of that, my salary has remained stagnant for the past few years.<p>My guess is that people have no idea what they&#x27;re worth, so they don&#x27;t ask for anything more. I see way too many developers who are getting paid pennies to the dollar. I see upper-end developers working for 70-80k.<p>Look, people. If you have skills, you should be getting paid 150k+ a year. Please, stop taking menial salaries. You&#x27;re hurting all of us.
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adventured大约 10 年前
Wages are not stagnant, they have begun to rise.<p>And this is simultaneously at a time when Americans just received one of the greatest purchasing power increases in modern history, as the USD has skyrocketed in the last nine months (so far that the USD and Euro are near parity).<p>November<p>&quot;Wages and salaries climbed last quarter by the most since 2008 as a dwindling number of unemployed per job opening approached a tipping point.&quot;<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-11-19/wages-poised-to-rise-as-signs-emerge-of-improved-u-s-job-market" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2014-11-19&#x2F;wages-pois...</a><p>December<p>&quot;An important measure of household income rose in December by the largest amount in nearly 8 years, signaling a long-overdue rebound in family earning power.&quot;<p><a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/families-are-finally-earning-more-151120875.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;finance.yahoo.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;families-are-finally-earning-m...</a><p>January<p>&quot;Average hourly wages, meanwhile, jumped 12 cents to $24.75, the biggest gain since September 2008&quot;<p><a href="http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article9388535.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kansascity.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;business&#x2F;article9388535.html</a><p>Wages aren&#x27;t rising as quickly as expected, because the labor force is not tight enough yet. The U3 is only partially accurate.<p>The labor force participation rate is sitting near a 40 year low and the U6 unemployment rate is still significantly elevated.<p>The U6 was about 9% in 2004 (8% by 2006). It&#x27;s 11.4% as of February.
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tsotha大约 10 年前
Yeah... no. The reason salaries aren&#x27;t going up is in the piece but casually dismissed as if it doesn&#x27;t matter. Instead of &quot;following the money&quot; to people who own companies, why don&#x27;t we follow the smell of bullshit to the BLS. Unemployment numbers are laughably phony. Of course workers don&#x27;t have bargaining power - there are millions of people who&#x27;ve been out of work for half a decade desperate for a job and yet not counted as &quot;unemployed&quot;.<p>Also, add in health care cost increases that employers have to pay but that don&#x27;t show up in salary surveys.
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patmcguire大约 10 年前
My own theory:<p>For most employers, there&#x27;s something almost inconceivable about rising salaries. It&#x27;s been routine for so long to have layoffs, to tighten belts, to pull together in these tough times and sacrifice, that market power over labor has been internalized into the entire way they do business.<p>If you read any HR industry literature you&#x27;ll see a lot about the costs of a bad hire and missing out on candidates because they were out of a company&#x27;s budget. You will not see concern about the opportunity cost of leaving a position vacant. If a company spends six months hobbling along understaffed, waiting for the sure thing to walk in the door for $5k less, that will seriously harm their business. It isn&#x27;t considered.<p>There are a lot of things like that, aspects of employment that the employer won&#x27;t change because it simply isn&#x27;t done. This sort of creates an informal price ceiling, which has exactly the effects you&#x27;d expect: lower supply (discouraged workers, low labor force participation), &quot;shortages&quot;, and more or less frozen wages.
pXMzR2A大约 10 年前
I love that a nation and an industry that is bent over backwards against unions (both in policy and in stereotypes) gets surprised when wages don&#x27;t go up.<p>What do you think pushes companies to increase wages, rainbow ponies? Benevolent investors? Gee.<p>Organized labor.
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everyone大约 10 年前
Cant we just fire all these finance guys out of a cannon into space?
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ghshephard大约 10 年前
It&#x27;s important to see what the average <i>age</i> of these newly employees are, age of those unemployed, and also who is exiting the job market.<p>If the newly employed are young (and therefore making lower wages), and those unemployed (or leaving the job market, or just not looking) - are older, and therefore commanding higher salaries - that alone could account for why salaries not increasing on average.<p>It would be useful to get a breakout of salaries biased by tenure, so as to accommodate for the confounding impact of average age of employed&#x2F;unemployed&#x2F;left-the-job-market.
fma大约 10 年前
Maybe the article refers more towards the assembly line worker, but GM IT receives an annual merit increase (a.k.a. raise) across the board.<p>YMMV based on performance, but if you worked the year you get something.<p>But I do agree that &#x27;returning value back to investors&#x27; is sucky. I&#x27;m of the opinion rewarding your employees, and hence retaining your employees and their knowledge brings value to the company, and in the end, the investor.
Zenst大约 10 年前
Big difference from the IT industry and other Industry is IT is still evolving and defining itself. This not only means that those in the feild have to learn far more than other trades to do the same job as it changes. But also this lack of stabilisation has not allowed standard certification and qualifications that stand the test of time. Compare that with accountants and lawyers. Yes they have new thinsg to learn, but controlled and lesser in volume. They also have qualifications that are as current today as the day they got them.<p>There is no standard body that has recognition globaly or the history and in a market in which things change so much, it is hard without seperate area&#x27;s.<p>Other industries have governing bodies and they in part act like Unions and protect workers and standards for the fiarness for all. Actors guild and book and music rights another area of contrast to software.<p>Lets face it software has developed a culture of free and open which is great, imagine if music and books were more towards that model.<p>So I can see why many feel the industry is and the people working in it are overly taken advantage of. Let us not ignore all that learning and long hours has a burn factor and people burn out quicker than some other profesions. Those prefessions factor in pay to compensate or have standard pension deals.<p>But IT is and will be a while until itself has a good standard and until then it is down to individual companies and it is not since the Googles and the like came about that a level of appreciation for what is involved has come into play.<p>But IT is if you compare to the book industry, still defining the format and types of size teh book should be and ink colour and paper thickness and other details. There is a lot of abstraction from creative aspects and the implementing of those.<p>Also the trade has been easy picking for TAX and with that UK introduced a rule IR35 just some may say to hit IT contractors. Yet in contrast the building industry, they can get a CIS that in effect means you pay less National Insurance than normaly would. Like say in other not so old industries like IT.<p>So IT is still as a trade young and with that has less protection and measure of worth than other trades.<p>Also let us not forget the move from companies to focus more onto share dividends than not and experdited trading that makes it mroe trigger happy. If they can get away with paying 50k a year and say the job is only worth that and use that to class people as over qualified, when the job is actualy underpaid perhaps. Well easy to cry for more fodder into the labour market and one persons poor wage is another persons gold. Just makes it more a case that not skill level and what they are paid are not the greatest of metrics .<p>Still, startups allow you to cut out the wage aspects and many other ways get you into tapping directly instead of more often, feeding into the companies pocket from your own quality of life.<p>Still there are many things in life that have not resolved, I can purchase fair trade chocolate and know the farmer got paid fairly and yet read about local dairy farmers being underpaid for milk at a loss and no fairtrade logo on milk ever.<p>So many unfair things propagate in life. Way to view it, if dairy farming as a industry gets treated badly and is more established than IT then, we take what we can get.<p>Least for a while yet and things are more standard. C today is not C when invented and things change more often than fashion wardrobes at times. At the very least enjoy the ride.