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Hey Ubuntu, Stop Making Linux Look Bad

35 点作者 r11t超过 15 年前

16 条评论

riobard超过 15 年前
The article is a little bit too harsh, but I get the idea. Let me explain ...<p>First, the title is wrong. Ubuntu is absolutely making Linux MUCH friendlier to use than ever before. In fact I would seriously doubt if Linux could be as popular as it is now without Ubuntu.<p>But the problems mentioned in the article are real --- every Ubuntu upgrade fixes some issues and breaks some others, especially drivers. I think the reasons are pretty obvious here: Apple has only a small portfolio of hardware configuration and generally Mac users don't tweak their systems as much as Linux folks do, and Apple can actually test each release on all possible hardware (Hackintosh excluded) AND reasonable system variants before they make it public and feel pretty confident it won't break too much stuff. So it's not very fair to compare Ubuntu with OS X for driver compatibility, as there is simply too much combinations of hardware and software to support. In this regard, Ubuntu is more similar to Windows.<p>But Windows has an advantage right now: it has a much larger install base which forces hardware/software vendors to "manufacture to Windows". And Windows has only a handful clearly-defined "reference implementations" for vendors to test out---currently the "reference implementations" are XP and Vista/Win7, then double the number to account for x86/x64 variants. Even then it is very hard for Microsoft to keep all devices working for all Windows users.<p>The situation is much worse for Ubuntu: officially there are four editions (U, K, X, and Netbook Remix), and think about the number of platforms it supports. In addition only a few vendors actually test their products on any flavor of Linux. And those who do test on Linux are usually big names like Intel (even then they suck from time to time). Your cheap webcam manufacturers don't really have the money or time or any incentive to test the $5 crap on Linux they sold to you. So the reality is, the test coverage for a particular installation of Ubuntu on a particular hardware configuration for the vast majority of users is pretty limited. You shouldn't really expect too much more than what we have now.<p>The more I think about it, the more I appreciate the effort Ubuntu and the whole Linux community spent to make Linux more approachable to common folks like my dad (he's been using Ubuntu for quite some time now and never bothered by virus/trojan any more -- I just don't upgrade the system as long as it works).<p>But problems are still problems. A year ago when my old laptop finally stopped working after a glass of juice got into its body I switched to a metal MacBook. I finally decided that my time wasted on figuring out how to make my webcam work again after each Ubuntu upgrades, if accumulated, is actually worth something. I feel much happier now on a Mac. Sometimes I still long for the power of control on Linux and really get annoyed by various little things on OS X (like even in Snow Leopard the default Terminal.app doesn't support 256 colors -- WTF!!??), but I'm willing to accept the trade-offs. Besides, when I really need the power of Linux I immediately summon the Ubuntu installed in VirtualBox and ssh into it (actually I think this is the preferred way of running Linux -- you avoid all the driver issues by virtualizing the hardware).
davidw超过 15 年前
Linkbait title; Ubuntu has done a great deal to make Linux look much better.
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SandB0x超过 15 年前
Perhaps the LTS version should be offered more prominently, and the regular releases billed as experimental?
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spot超过 15 年前
"Canonical is not an open source company, they are just using free software to try and get a slice of the huge operating system market."<p>looks like the article is a smear job by someone with a hidden agenda.
GiraffeNecktie超过 15 年前
They claim that a poll said only 10 percent of people had a flawless install but the link actually shows 16 percent had a flawless install with another 12.5 percent having only minor problems. I don't know whether those numbers are good or bad. There's a selection bias in the poll (people with problems are far more likely to be cruising the site). I'd like to see a random sample. For myself, I installed Karmic on a quad core desktop and a netbook with no problems at all. The first time I've installed any Unix without any grief.
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mhotchen超过 15 年前
About an hour ago I downloaded the windows installer for Ubuntu. It ran just like any other installer on windows and when I restarted there it was, right beside windows. I can also uninstall it with the add/remove programs window.<p>That was by far the most painless install of any OS I've ever installed.
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mapleoin超过 15 年前
Here's a sort of reply to these sort of articles from Jono Bacon, Ubuntu's community manager: <a href="http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/11/06/the-intersection-of-quality-and-expectations/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/11/06/the-intersection-of-qual...</a>
jrockway超过 15 年前
Ubuntu is about optimizing the common case at the expense of the corner cases. If you want something that is actually stable, use Debian.
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jrockway超过 15 年前
I am not sure why people expect reliability from a bunch of unrelated software packages written in C without any automatic testing. Of course stuff is going to break. My laptop's sound card alternately breaks every other major kernel release. Nobody to test + no automatic tests + minor changes in the sound subsystem = breakage. (I don't care about this, though, as the card is junk and I have a decent USB DAC connected to my machine. But still...)<p>I am mildly surprised every time I see a Linux system boot to completion. (And yes, Linux is my favorite OS.)
tghw超过 15 年前
Wow, what a useless article. "Early" adopters experiencing bugs?! Clearly the author must be new to "early" adopting. (Why he uses quotes for "early" I don't really understand.)
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rbanffy超过 15 年前
That's weird... It worked here flawlessly. I even did an upgrade over from last release and not with a fresh reinstall...<p>The worse that happened is that it disabled my 3rd party repos (Skype, VirtualBox) - that is after warning me it would.
barnaby超过 15 年前
Yeah, Canonical's own release notes for my netbook actually recommended _not_ upgrading because of regressions.<p>I did however upgrade my desktop just fine and I _love_ it!
kirkR超过 15 年前
I had issues with my WPA2 keys in 9.10. Could not get my router to accept my password. I downgraded back to 9.04 were everything works flawless.
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shaddi超过 15 年前
&#62;Free software is supposed to improve with each new release. Take OS X, which gets faster. Cleaner. Better.<p>Funny, my experience has been just the opposite...<p>(before you downmod: I'm referring to 10.6, and yes I know it's been fine for some people and not fine for others; this is my personal experience)
brent超过 15 年前
Hey Christopher Smart, Stop Making Linux Magazine Look Bad
sleepingbot超过 15 年前
I would say it <i>just</i> the other way around. Not kidding. And using on <i>production</i> 9.10. Smooth.
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