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On Saving the World and Other Delusions

104 点作者 proveanegative大约 10 年前

18 条评论

vezzy-fnord大约 10 年前
This is a neoreaction blog. Before anyone else feels the need to point that out.<p>With that said, I think there&#x27;s two major reasons for bold &quot;save the world&quot; visions expressed by startups to lack viability. The first is that the symbiosis between startups and venture capital creates a cycle where the most successful players are inevitably end user-facing services optimized for rapid growth. There are a ton of problems whose solutions do not find under this model. In fact, being too big of a visionary is usually considered a negative: it likely means you have no product-market fit. The incentive henceforth becomes to achieve a maximum market valuation and preferably a low fair value (less effort in creation, ops and maintenance).<p>The second is what jerf terms the &quot;BOAC fallacy&quot; (<a href="http://www.jerf.org/iri/post/2916" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jerf.org&#x2F;iri&#x2F;post&#x2F;2916</a>). Lots of programmers seem to have this odd magical thinking that they can trivially obsolete industries and professions by just applying statistical learning over some data sets, or by writing what amounts to a spreadsheet... except marketed and branded towards a given field. Doesn&#x27;t change the fact that it&#x27;s just a spreadsheet application, and that there are other intricacies that naturally impede automation of a certain area which you haven&#x27;t accounted for.
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Htsthbjig大约 10 年前
I had some success in my life and got to met pretty successful people, the Bill Gates and Steve Jobs of different fields.<p>I had never met any of them wanting to &quot;save the world&quot;. Saving the world does not make sense. It is too diffuse, too abstract.<p>When you met someone like Bill Gates, you met someone who has traveled to Africa and seen people suffering, children and women spending hours a day to get water (that they can&#x27;t use for other things like learning). Children dying of diarrhea(because of the water), Parents dying because of H.I.V and creating millions of orphans.<p>You see, this is not abstract but concrete problems. You can actually do something today to improve other people&#x27;s lives, today. The world is full of them.<p>We love problems because we can solve them, and this is not a delusion. It is a gift. You can improve people&#x27;s lives in lots of ways. Geeks have the opportunity to improve millions of lives.<p>Helping people is incredible rewarding, just by itself.
harigov大约 10 年前
This article resonates with me. I find myself very often in this situation of trying to find meaning in what I do. When you tie this to evolution and what more or less appears to be biological machines trying to eek out some meaning in otherwise meaningless life, nothing seems to make sense any more. What&#x27;s the point of anything at all? We try so hard to reason and find it hard when we reach the boundaries of reasoning and enter the domain of faith and beliefs, but choose to ignore them because they aren&#x27;t scientific enough. I believe a much simpler notion is to treat yourself as an artist or an entertainer and look at your work as a means of enriching someone&#x27;s life - not because of its utility or function or what not but just because its beautiful and brings out joy to people in your world, however small the number might be. We keep thinking about the whole world and forget about our own small world, when in reality, it&#x27;s our small world that gives us all of our joy and happiness.
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skybrian大约 10 年前
There is an individualistic notion here that you, personally, need to be the leader of a project to change the world. Or if not the leader, one of the founders. Perhaps that&#x27;s inherent in founding a startup. There are not many people involved, so if it&#x27;s going to succeed, it&#x27;s up to you. (Sort of. It&#x27;s also up to your customers.)<p>But I think a lot of people would be just as happy working on a project along with many others to change the world, provided that they have confidence that it&#x27;s a just cause, has a good chance of succeeding, and they&#x27;re treated reasonably fairly. When these preconditions align (in perception if not in reality) you can get something big.
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Jimmy大约 10 年前
This really resonates with me. On the one hand, you have the desire for greatness and importance, and on the other, the sobering realization that unless you do something completely absurd - inventing free energy, for instance, or getting us into contact with an extraterrestrial intelligence - your work can only have an impact on a limited number of people, and will almost certainly be unknown to the vast majority of humans.<p>I look to the great minds of history, people like Aristotle, Newton, and Nietzsche, as role models and examples of who I want to be like, but then I remember that even for them, the majority of people on earth don&#x27;t know their names. To say nothing of actually being acquainted with their work.<p>Perhaps a good compromise is that, while you might not be able to impact everyone alive, present and future, you might be able to impact all people who share some property X. Most people don&#x27;t know who Gauss is, but everyone who is a part of the mathematical community and studies mathematics to a certain level knows who Gauss is. In that way, some kind of enduring immortality and greatness can still be achieved.
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te_platt大约 10 年前
What I got from the article:<p>&quot;Save the world&quot; = really, really hard.<p>&quot;Improve the world&quot; = challenging, but doable.<p>It seems like I have my &quot;save the world&quot; visions as I&#x27;m getting ready for bed and trying tho think through what I can do the next day. In the morning it seems hard enough to do mundane chores let alone get everything set up to save the world. I think my most productive times are when I&#x27;ve found something tangible I can make better and work through it in small steps.
estill01大约 10 年前
Disagree. Do attempt to save the world; it&#x27;s not going to happen on its own and is enormously worth pursuing.
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FD3SA大约 10 年前
This reads like a self parody. &quot;We&#x27;re making the world a better place...[1]&quot;.<p>The modern capitalist society is not designed to &quot;make the world a better place&quot;. It&#x27;s designed to justify the status seeking behavior inherent in mankind, and allow the few winners to enjoy their wealth without being vilified.<p>Want to make the world a better place? Start thinking about a steady state economy, a steady state lifestyle and a minimal consumption, minimal destruction society. That means minimizing energy usage, consumption and waste. This the complete antithesis of everything modern capitalism stands for. I&#x27;m sure this isn&#x27;t gonna go over well here, as we have quite a few dyed-in-the-wool Randians, but its the truth.<p>1. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-GVd_HLlps" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=J-GVd_HLlps</a>
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kylehotchkiss大约 10 年前
I think it&#x27;s good people have an honest desire to make the world a better place. But it&#x27;s not always going to be the responbility of your specific app or business to do just that. Bringing internet to people who can&#x27;t even get water without a trek to a well isn&#x27;t best place to start sometimes, internet will be needed eventually, but basic needs are needed first. There are many, many, many great NGOs that you can donate to and make a huge impact. I was just looking at UNHCR the other day, and they have some really important projects going on in a world where some 30 million people are displaced.<p>If you have kids, you have people who you can spend each and every day investing in and you&#x27;ll likely get to see that impact firsthand, and lead them in the right direction for many years to come, and I think that&#x27;s really just awesome. And if you&#x27;re reading this, you probably went through the challenges of learning to code, and think of how you can improve the lives of your friends who will put the work forth to honestly learn - now they have a desireable skill and can find a job and poteintally take better care of their families as well. I&#x27;d call both of those changing your world!
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DennisP大约 10 年前
I have to admit my own goals are absurdly ambitious, but those are the ones that excite me so I&#x27;m sticking with it.<p>Right now I&#x27;m reading <i>Bold</i>, the new book by Peter Diamandis, who has pretty much the opposite opinion of this article. One thing he points out is that if you start with an absurdly ambitious goal, then even if you only accomplish a small portion of it, you&#x27;re still really successful.
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drawkbox大约 10 年前
Money is the great change agent, get enough of it and you might be able to do some change that impacts widely. If you can somehow get markets invested in the direction you want to change it, it may happen. If you can&#x27;t do that, you can also impact others around you in good ways.
g0v大约 10 年前
Never give up.<p>I have a poster on the wall behind my monitors of the 5th Solvay Congress in Brussels. It has many of the greats including Planck, Curie, Lorentz, Einstein, Schrodinger, just to name a few. There are times when, for example, I&#x27;ve been working on a problem or trying to understand a concept and want to walk away; I will look up at the poster and think about how those people spent their entire lives on problems, they were the type that didn&#x27;t give up.<p>Things don&#x27;t happen all at once, sometimes you have to be more patient than you&#x27;d like. But I believe it&#x27;s those people that never give up that make the most impact.<p>Be realistic with yourself but aim high; work hard and smart and you have a better chance than many to get what you want.
dash2大约 10 年前
As he suggests, it is helpful to have life goals that are more modest than saving the world, but more idealist than just making money.<p>Here&#x27;s a not bad measure of life success: after you retire, how many Christmas cards will you get each year?
DodgyEggplant大约 10 年前
Well, two comments: First, it&#x27;s hard, but never before a single person or small company could at least technically reach millions of people with feasible investment. Now you can. Second, by the time people who do paper work got to position that can make change, many already confirmed to their system bureaucracy and traditional point of view and interests. You need the people who don&#x27;t take that way.
tomjen3大约 10 年前
There is something I didn&#x27;t expect to ever see: a neoreaction blog post on Hacker News.
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CPLX大约 10 年前
This is a problem that young people have.
comrade1大约 10 年前
But you can work in this industry and do good in the world. You may not make as much or have a big payout though. I originally focused my career on healthcare and first wrote software used by biotech&#x2F;pharma companies to support their communications with doctors. Then I focused on privacy issues and worked for PGP. I then went 180 degrees may have added some evil to the world and worked on NSA&#x2F;military projects for awhile (only defensive projects though).<p>I&#x27;m now back to a public health focus to make up for it. It&#x27;s kind of depressing work. I write software used by crisis call centers, suicide hotlines, 211 call centers, etc. and when I log into the server and watch the messages passing through the system in realtime I see people being talked out of suicide, children talking about being bullied, lots of pregnant single mothers looking for shelter... One of the most depressing for me though was a guy looking for replacement glasses since his broke and he couldn&#x27;t afford a new pair.<p>We&#x27;re a barebones operation (just three of us) and we don&#x27;t make a ton of money - most of our customers are non-profits. We&#x27;ll never have a big payout, or a big exit. And being closer to the problems in society is a little depressing, to see how a large number of people really live. I can see how people delude themselves into thinking &quot;Making the world a better place, through minimal message oriented transport layers&quot; is a real thing.
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xaetium大约 10 年前
Haven&#x27;t we already learnt that the world reacts badly to &#x27;being saved&#x27;? I cite religious battle.<p>But seriously - this article forgets that &#x27;nerds&#x27; <i>measuring</i> what they call success is key; by doing so they get a much better handle on it. In that sense, if you try to save the world like a nerd, you&#x27;ll at least know if it&#x27;s working.