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My year of living without money

15 点作者 cesare超过 15 年前

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david超过 15 年前
Money is just a medium of exchange. If I'm most productive as a fisherman, and currently I want a new wooden table more than anything else, I'm much better off if I can spend three hours fishing in exchange for enough money to buy a table, rather than spend 10 hours trying to come up with something I can trade the table-maker directly, or spending 20 hours trying to make a table myself.<p>The author made the association between working for money and dissociation from the actual value of the products your using. So he might say that since you didn't spend so much time making the table yourself, you would be too distanced from the impact of throwing that table out or from the amount of resources and labor that are going to be needed for making a new table.<p>I don't think that makes sense, whether it costs you a week of labor to build a table, or a day to go fishing for a table, the cost to you isn't any less precise. All you really get by doing away with money is inefficiency and less free time. If that's how you enjoy spending your time, so be it, but that doesn't have anything to do with the way millions of other people prefer to spend their time.<p>The real factor that leads to dissociation from the actual cost/impact of stuff in consumers' minds isn't money, it's any of the costs/expenses that for political reasons are prevented from influencing the price of the final product. So for example if farmers are given subsidies and are protected by tariffs against competing goods, people are going to be a lot more wasteful with their food than they should be, or if people are allowed to spread pollution without having to pay for it, the environmental costs are not going to be accurately reflected in the price of their products.<p>But I guess trying to crack that problem is a lot harder than living in a trailer and making your own bread.
jacquesm超过 15 年前
In order to really live without money you'd have to isolate yourself from anything that was produced directly or indirectly by using money too.<p>Good luck with that, it's a lot harder than it seems. Probably you'd have to move to greenland or a place like it to be sure that you actually can achieve the goal.<p>Living without touching money is not the same as living without money.
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Tichy超过 15 年前
What if he gets sick or old and can't work at the farm anymore or barter away his skills? Some saved cash might come in handy then.<p>I think it is good to try to reduce waste, but what does it have to do with money?
lionhearted超过 15 年前
Kind of a cool story, and as someone whose generally a conservationist and stoic, I admire the guy. But he does miss quite a big point with this:<p>&#62; If we grew our own food, we wouldn't waste a third of it as we do today. If we made our own tables and chairs, we wouldn't throw them out the moment we changed the interior decor. If we had to clean our own drinking water, we wouldn't waste it so freely.<p>We also wouldn't have time to do things like cure malaria, build fortifications against natural disasters, and share information across great distances.<p>If you were born 100 years ago in 1909, you'd expect to die in 1961. Current life expectancy is 78 years, and there's a good chance babies born in 2009 will average living to 2109. That's frigging marvelous, despite wasting some food and furniture.
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CamperBob超过 15 年前
I'm always amused by people who equate a parasitic existence with a truly independent one.
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