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The Apple Watch

253 点作者 orteipid大约 10 年前

32 条评论

DigitalSea大约 10 年前
Is John Gruber ever non-biased in his pieces about Apple? Given his history with the company, I feel like with Gruber we never ever get the real deal. Every article on every Apple product announcement starts out feeling well-intentioned and non-objective, but then always seems to segue into a subtle praise piece. I am not hating on him, he still makes some great points and he puts considerable amounts of effort into analysis pieces. I just feel like with Gruber we would never see an article honestly telling us something Apple have released is bad.<p>&gt; Also, though it sounds trivial, I enjoy the perfect 60 FPS smoothness of Apple Watch’s second hand — a smoothness no mechanical watch could ever match.<p>Based on a culmination of reviews and early preview articles I have read, videos and basically everything I have read about the Apple Watch this statement seems kind of ironic. The second hand might be smooth, but the very real performance issues people have encountered with the watch mean the rest of the Apple Watch experience is anything but smooth. What&#x27;s the point of a smooth second hand if the rest of the experience is somewhat crippled and unusable?<p>I like the look of the Apple Watch and the very idea of it, but to an extent. It feels as though articles like Gruber&#x27;s here are talking with reckless abandon, from the perspective that existing solutions aren&#x27;t out there. From a user interface perspective the Pebble watch and Moto 360 especially are beautiful, well-crafted and smooth interfaces. Apple are not entering new territory nor are they introducing any ideas or improvements into the space (besides the physical appearance).<p>Lets not pretend that there aren&#x27;t as equally good, if not, better smart watches out there. They might not have had the same amount of design and research put into them, but I think there is such a thing as over-engineering something. I am pretty happy with my Pebble watch, the battery life is great and so too, is the battery life.<p>I am by no means an expert, but I like nice watches and to me the Apple Watch will never match the build quality, feel and longevity of a nice traditional mechanical watch even if it is only from a battery life perspective.
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bitsoda大约 10 年前
Gruber&#x27;s scenario with the two high school kids sending each other love taps, scribbles, and heartbeats was poignant. While the Apple Watch isn&#x27;t for me, I can&#x27;t begrudge those who decide to buy one. I think back to the late 90s and how I wouldn&#x27;t have met my wife if not for IMing a screenname a mutual friend of ours passed along to me.<p>The internet, a crappy eMachines desktop, and AIM made this possible. Technically, I didn&#x27;t &quot;need&quot; my own computer at the time, but it made interactions like this possible. Maybe the Apple Watch will create new interactions that could spark something great between people.<p><i>Shrug</i>
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reubenmorais大约 10 年前
This is a very interesting article, and I like how it&#x27;s written in the perspective of a functional watch user instead of being about fashion or watch collecting.<p>I couldn&#x27;t help but laugh at this part:<p>&gt; Also, though it sounds trivial, I enjoy the perfect 60 FPS smoothness of Apple Watch’s second hand — a smoothness no mechanical watch could ever match.<p>Isn&#x27;t a mechanical watch hand ∞ FPS by definition? Real life has got to be <i>at least</i> better than 144hz :)
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51Cards大约 10 年前
Article aside for a moment, I find it fascinating that with this release so many people are discussing smart watches and their interfaces as something completely new with no established precedents. I&#x27;ve had my Pebble for almost 2 years now and my LG G watch for about 8 months. From my perspective this seems like a late-comer to a market that is already well under-way? I would expect more existing market comparison conversation.<p>Edit: for the record I love both of them after being initially dubious about the usefulness of such a device.
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roc大约 10 年前
Designing a 2015 smartwatch to fit the expectations of dumb-watches feels more and more to me like designing a 2007 smartphone to fit the expectations of the blackberry crowd (physical keyboard, removable battery).<p>The digital crown looks like one such mistake. Swipe-to-scroll is so natural, particularly at this point, that moving back to an indirect method of scrolling seems just <i>wrong</i>. And doing so on a device that&#x27;s already touch, and already using swipe-to-scroll, feels twice and wrong and unnecessarily confusing.<p>I understand the intent and the goal, but the inconsistent use of the crown -- if it&#x27;s so great, why can I still swipe to scroll at all? -- is a tell. It would have been better to simply detect swipe-to-scroll along the right edge of the bezel (if not along the right side of the frame itself) to effect &quot;scrolling without obscuring&quot;.<p>Four-ways-to-click (crown-click vs tap vs force tap vs tap-and-hold) is an eyebrow-raise-er all its own.<p>Also: displays should be wider. At fifty- to one-hundred-percent wider the display would be far better for notifications and would make the selection of A&#x2F;B buttons more clear and precise.<p>The next time you get a notification on your phone, rest your phone on your wrist, so the notification is displayed roughly where a smartwatch would sit. Ask yourself whether that notification would still &quot;work&quot;, if it were crammed into an Apple Watch-sized screen. Some certainly do. More can be made to work <i>alright</i>, if font size were reduced. IME, most simply don&#x27;t work.<p>There just isn&#x27;t enough room to get enough meaningful information onto a screen that size, in a comfortable font size, for me to make good decisions about what can be ignored and what should be addressed.<p>You can mitigate this problem if you can ignore all messages of a given type (e.g. don&#x27;t even bother getting email alerts on your wrist). But even if you could do this, it would be better if you didn&#x27;t have to. A screen that enables better decisions would make for a more useful object.
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acqq大约 10 年前
&gt; Apple Watch’s screen remains off until you tap the screen (...) or it detects (...) that you’ve moved your wrist into a “tell the time” position.<p>That&#x27;s really the one of the biggest problems I can imagine. Pity that the &quot;show the time at least somehow&quot; wasn&#x27;t engineered as a special feature, something like &quot;e-ink for somehow time&quot; and the OLED (if that&#x27;s what they&#x27;re using) for the full color. I know that nobody made something exactly like that, but I&#x27;ve read that a hybrid e-ink&#x2F;LCD exists (1). Maybe it wouldn&#x27;t look so pretty at the moment, but that&#x27;s why the &quot;magic&quot; is needed, I don&#x27;t think anybody designed any such hybrid specially for a smart watch. That e-ink or any other magic wouldn&#x27;t have to be able to display everything, just the time. Even the big unchangeable segments like on old passive LCD watches would be (maybe?) enough.<p>1) And Apple even has some patents, discovered as early as 2011! <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;04&#x2F;apple-patent-hybrid-display&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;04&#x2F;apple-patent-hybrid-display&#x2F;</a> Hmm.
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Thiz大约 10 年前
&gt; It truly is a good and clever idea, and, presuming it is patent-protected strongly enough, the lack of a digital crown is going to put competitors at a disadvantage.<p>I rather scroll using the edge of the screen, I hate reading on my phone and interrupting with my finger to scroll, that&#x27;s why I swipe at the very edge of the screen, almost scrolling with the metal.<p>When watches get thinner, and they will, the crown will give place to the scrolling edge, longer area, more ergonomic.<p>And I hope nobody patents it.
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prawn大约 10 年前
His description of a video call being an image rather than a direct view, and the equivalent with voice, helps put the touch features in perspective. They go from gimmick to potentially the start of something.<p>I wonder if that small postage stamp portal to your wife&#x27;s wrist will be the notable precursor to larger contact features and eventually touch-featured clothing or (ooooer) playsuits?<p>He has a fairly flowery and gushing writing style with Apple topics, but it&#x27;s obvious he thinks everything through and looks for a deeper angle.<p>I wonder if many people will buy a pair of these watches as something to experience with their partner? Touch or smooth&#x2F;personal gestures are certainly a bit more personal and emotive than blue and green text bubbles.
aleem大约 10 年前
I am quite excited about upgrading my watch experience and the next generation of connected devices, however, the biggest surprise for me is that Apple doesn&#x27;t offer more gesture recognition.<p>I always imagined the primary interface for shortcuts would be gestures such as waving away your arm to dismiss a message or flicking the wrist multiple times (if you try it right now, you can easily flick your wrist 3-4 times per second). It would make interaction that much easier and wrist flicking could even become a thing. One flick for health, two for time, etc. depending on the context.<p>Another thing that could be mildly annoying for a lot of people is that it can only ever be operated by engaging both hands. Phone by contrast can easily be operated with one hand using the thumb.<p>EDIT: If the watch has enough sensors, I am sure it could detect users not only flicking the wrist via rotation but also bending your hand down&#x2F;up (which tends to pull&#x2F;push the tendons on your wrist) though the watch would need to be worn snugly.
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EA大约 10 年前
<i>“You’ll still be able to do with Apple Watch what you do with your current watch: tell the time (and if you want, the date) at a glance and trust that it’s accurate.”</i><p>...if you return your watch to a charging station daily.<p>He goes on:<p><i>That said, compared to a traditional watch, daily charging is terrible.</i><p>Before entering into the smartphone market, I charged my cellphone less than 100 times per year. Now, I have to charge my smartphone at least once a day. It&#x27;s a tax on my lifestyle that I don&#x27;t mind paying.<p>I hated the daily charging of my smartphone at first. Now, I plan my day and commutes with respect to a battery to ensure I have enough charge for me to interweave the technology in my pocket with my experiencing of the analog world.<p>I suspect I and others will make the same allowance for a smart watch and the Apple Watch will be a very profitable device for Apple.
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sylvinus大约 10 年前
&gt; Imagine: You’re 16. You’re in school. You’re sitting in class.<p>Honestly, I think it&#x27;s impossible for anyone above ~25 to imagine what it&#x27;s like to be 16 in school today.<p>Context and social dynamics have changed too much for anyone that old (and probably anyone at all) to be insightful about the behaviour of groups of teenagers using a yet unreleased product.
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sebnukem2大约 10 年前
If I had to choose between a dumb watch that never needs recharging (like my Citizen Eco-Drive) and a &quot;smart&quot; watch that doesn&#x27;t even last a full day, I&#x27;d choose the dumb watch.<p>Who the hell think that a watch that can&#x27;t even function a day is an acceptable product? This just blows my mind. And yet, I&#x27;m pretty sure they are going to sell millions of them. I wouldn&#x27;t want one if it was free.
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pchristensen大约 10 年前
&quot;Without the Taptic Engine, Apple Watch is not a compelling device.&quot;<p>This is why I value Gruber&#x27;s reviews. He&#x27;s unabashedly pro-Apple, but he&#x27;s also critical and observant.
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bla2大约 10 年前
It&#x27;s interesting that even gruber&#x27;s review isn&#x27;t all that positive.
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bitL大约 10 年前
So the smartphones replaced watches and now watches are going to have a sudden comeback? I must admit I got rid of all my watches except for a purely mechanical one with a mainspring since my first smartphone. For gym&#x2F;swimming&#x2F;running I have a special device with a chest strap - if Apple solved problems plaguing strap-less heart rate monitors I might be interested, however for $400+ definitely not.
72deluxe大约 10 年前
I can&#x27;t help wondering how dated such a device will look &#x2F; feel next year, particularly as I saw Swiss watches in a shop the other day and they really are timeless bits of machinery.
mschuster91大约 10 年前
A bit of sidelined, but still...<p>&gt; You simply hold the connector near the back of the watch, where magnets cause it to snap into place automatically.<p>I would instantly buy a phone without a traditional connector port for headphone and USB - just metal pads flush with the surface (maybe laid in rubber to be watertight) and kept aligned by magnets.<p>Seriously, the amount of devices failed due to either bent (e.g. during gaming) or rusted&#x2F;dust-damaged Micro USB connectors (and don&#x27;t forget the headphone connectors, where even the tiniest damage can be <i>heard</i>) is ridiculous.<p>The only real option is to buy one of CATs smartphones or (iirc) one of the Galaxy series with protectors over the connectors - but again, the protectors start to annoy after a while. Too bad Apple holds a patent over MagSafe - and then doesn&#x27;t even employ it in their phones!
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ctdonath大约 10 年前
&quot;Apple seemingly tries to enter markets at, or just after, that tipping point — when Moore’s Law and Apple’s ever-increasing engineering and manufacturing prowess allow them to produce a gadget-y computer that the computer-y gadgets from the established market leaders cannot compete with.&quot;<p>A recurring event in the advance of technology. I saw it hit hard when Smith Corona&#x27;s computer-y typewriters couldn&#x27;t keep up with gadget-y word processing software, and the typewriter died. Likewise when computer-y photography (lots of image processing introduced into developing photos) lost favor with consumers vs gadget-y digital cameras.<p>&quot;the established market — watches — is not despised. They not only don’t suck, they are beloved. And the best and most-beloved watches aren’t even electronic. They’re purely mechanical — all gadget, no computer.&quot;<p>Yet...all they do is tell time. Elegantly, yes, or cheaply, if you like...but time and little else. Attempts to add computer-y function failed for a decade, succumbing to horrible interfaces and anemic UIs; the author completely overlooks the computer-y phases which watches have gone thru (and failed miserably). That a $5 POS watch tells time more accurately, and with less maintenance, than my elegant $500 Movado or the improbable $500,000 watches seen on <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;uncrate.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;uncrate.com</a> et al, was setting off warnings that the market was ripe for...something.
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EGreg大约 10 年前
How does this guy always nail his articles?<p>I think he&#x27;s the only one I&#x27;ve ever heard of who gets paid so much to write blog articles.
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nickgrosvenor大约 10 年前
It&#x27;s ironic that the people who attack the Apple watch under the pragmatic guise that a regular watch performs better, are forgetting the fact that a regular watch is completely superfluous.<p>In this day and age, with a phone on you, and everyone else, you can always get the time. A watch is a relic of the past. It&#x27;s Tradition. It&#x27;s ornamental. It&#x27;s redundant.<p>With tens of thousands of brilliant people working day and night to build amazing third party apps, the smart watches can actually do things. A regular watch can&#x27;t do shit. It&#x27;s not a tool, it&#x27;s not a workhorse. People that are satisfied with their traditional watches are kidding themselves, as much if not more than the people who will happily buy an Apple watch and tout it&#x27;s features.
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72deluxe大约 10 年前
He is wrong in this article: CDs did not suck. Compressed audio sucked, unless you had NIHL and love reduced dynamic range and poor attack transients.<p>I am glad CDs are still around to stop this MP3 slime from washing away all the uncompressed audio!
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guelo大约 10 年前
I can barely stand reading Gruber because it feels like reading Apple marketing materials. But he is required reading because he is one of the few ways that Apple releases important industry information. It would be great to have a daringfireball tl;dr service emphasizing his forecasts and &quot;predictions&quot; (which are usually actually Apple leaks).
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drawkbox大约 10 年前
I like the health monitoring aspects the most. Fitbit type of devices, tracking activities&#x2F;health, have been picking up and will pick up more. Apple has jumped on that pretty well and traditional watches can&#x27;t compete on those features.<p>I stopped wearing watches but have thought about a Fitbit watch and why not have that be an Apple watch maybe.
mikekij大约 10 年前
I&#x27;m a die-hard iPhone guy. I love when I meet someone, get their phone number, text them, and the message bubble is blue. I feel like we&#x27;re in the same club. (Albeit a very large club.)<p>However, I keep my phone in my pocket. Wearing a watch that millions of other people may have feels a bit weird to me. It&#x27;s like taking that membership of the iPhone &quot;club&quot; and turning it into an external badge signifying membership.<p>Watches become part of your visual identity, and I&#x27;m not sure that I want something that ubiquitous as part of mine.
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ThomPete大约 10 年前
Just like the iPhone wasn&#x27;t a smarter phone but a smaller computer, I guess Apple Watch isn&#x27;t a smarter watch but a smaller iPhone.
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bane大约 10 年前
For people who want to skip all the non-critical Apple praise and marketing regurgitation and don&#x27;t want to spend their time filtering out the endless variety of framing devices Gruber uses to try to turn Apple&#x27;s lemons into lemonaid here&#x27;s a summary review:<p>- Using the watch as a watch is broken. He spends almost 1,000 words across 8 paragraphs talking about how broken it is. It may be accurate, but it&#x27;s overly complex, fussy and unreliable to get it to show you the time.<p>- The water resistance is unacceptable for a device intended as a fitness companion, some of this is due to compromises to the overly complex design.<p>- As a watch targeting people who wear watches, it&#x27;s probably a failure. He repeats some variation of this a number of times.<p>- the build quality feels high, not as high as the early press hands-on<p>- the rubber watch band is easy to size and the material feels good, but swapping out bands is &quot;fiddly&quot;<p>- the watch is designed to hide the bezel, but in good lighting you can see it, again reminding that it isn&#x27;t a great watch<p>- the shape (square) is not a good watch shape<p>- the gender-neutral design comes off as modern<p>- battery life will get you through a day of moderate usage<p>- the induction charger is easy to use and works as advertised<p>- one of the main marketing points, that it&#x27;s a health and fitness device, is not useful to him in any way and he has no interest in it<p>- some of the fitness features intrude into non-fitness uses in a bad way<p>- other fitness features seem pretty accurate and potentially useful<p>- the digital crown works basically like a mouse scroll-wheel<p>- touch, the crown and haptic feedback work as well as you&#x27;d expect and they work together well<p>- haptic feedback works so well that you can turn off sound for notifications<p>- he had a 50% failure rate on the haptic feedback on his test watches requiring him to get a replacement watch during his week-long review<p>- the digital touch features were untested, though he provides a cute story of two rich teenagers flirting in class he provides no actual coverage of the feature<p>tl;dr none of the smart watch features were particularly interesting and it&#x27;s not a great watch to use for time keeping<p>It&#x27;s not really surprising, it&#x27;s the same problem all the smart watches have, it&#x27;s not really clear that the extra expense and fuss of a smartwatch, on a severely compromised display and interaction platform is worth it. The target audience he holds out hope for, non-watch wearers who wouldn&#x27;t know any better, are probably not going to start wearing an expensive fussy fiddly device that provides no unqualified benefit that they have to charge every day. I&#x27;m not a watch wearer and the only smartwatch I&#x27;d even consider is something like the Pebble and that&#x27;s only because it&#x27;s focused on<p>a) being a watch<p>b) notifications<p>c) not making me charge it all the time<p>Except that I&#x27;m literally surrounded by clocks nearly all the time, so I don&#x27;t need to tell time. My phone already vibrates and makes sound, and it&#x27;s usually letting me know something that I&#x27;m already being notified about on my monitor. The one use-case I can really see for a smartwatch is to help with navigation, especially while walking since walking around with your phone out getting turn-by-turn isn&#x27;t all that great. But it&#x27;s something I need literally once or twice per year.
ohitsdom大约 10 年前
A great perspective, as Gruber typically gives.<p>But his take on sending a heartbeat as a flirting 16 year old was awful. That was basically the same pitch for Facebook pokes, which initially were cute but quickly turned obnoxious. Sending taps sounds like it could be useful. Sending your heartbeat seems like a gimmick. Ultimately his last point is right, we won&#x27;t know unless&#x2F;until Apple Watch becomes a thing.
pokstad大约 10 年前
Gshock watches already have digital crowns, so Apple can&#x27;t patent them unless there is something new.
EliRivers大约 10 年前
<i>I enjoy the perfect 60 FPS smoothness of Apple Watch’s second hand — a smoothness no mechanical watch could ever match.</i><p>How can the the smoothness of an actual, physical piece of metal smoothly rotating in a circle at a constant angular velocity be &quot;out-smoothed&quot; by a 60 FPS simulacrum?
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smegel大约 10 年前
I lose watches. Period. It&#x27;s why I wear a near disposable $5 plastic eyesore from Target on my wrist.<p>No way am I wearing a $500+ wrist computer to tell the time.
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tw04大约 10 年前
It actually kind of saddens me to read his summary of how touch will be &quot;awesome&quot;. A teenager is afraid to talk to a girl he likes so he sends her what amounts to a text on his watch? It feels like humans keep building more and more barriers to ACTUAL communication. I can&#x27;t help but think at some point it will have serious negative effects on the human race. Part of growing up and maturing is learning to deal with difficult emotional situations, like being rejected by the girl you really have a crush on.<p>What happens the first time that kid who was too afraid of rejection to talk to a girl he liked messes up in his &quot;grown-up&quot; job? Is he going to send his boss an apology over his watch? Or is going to break down in tears because he&#x27;s never had to deal with an emotionally stressful situation &quot;IRL&quot;?
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q2大约 10 年前
Honest questions: How people can write such long articles? How many hours they might have spent in writing? Does anyone read it from the top to bottom completely? Is it not possible to express the whole thing in a small article without losing the gist?<p>EDIT 1: Gruber&#x27;s articles have lot of useful information,analysis and insights but I feel, current article is too lengthy.<p>EDIT 2: Anandtech&#x27;s reviews are also detailed but they are easy to select to go to required part of the review. Hope interface of DF may change in future.
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