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Job Interview 2.0: Now With Riddles

33 点作者 vinutheraj超过 15 年前

13 条评论

elrodeo超过 15 年前
I think one has to distinguish between real riddles and the nonsense-questions like a bike for the blind...<p>If somebody loves riddles it only means that he loves to think and he possibly can solve really hard problems, where all others would give up...
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sdfx超过 15 年前
The light bulb and the bridge riddle offer little insight into the problem solving skills of the interviewee: you either "get" the solution or not. There is not much room between the exact right answer and no answer at all.<p>The Boeing question on the other hand (like many other Fermi Problems [1]) might help you understand how the interviewee approaches a problem he doesn't know the answer to and whether or not he is capable of making sane predictions. But even though I think they are not completely useless, I expect a well prepared candidate to score better than some less well prepared, but in other regards superior candidates.<p>[1] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_problem" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_problem</a>
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tel超过 15 年前
My major at my college has a class that asks these kinds of questions on tests. It's widely considered to be one of the most difficult and painful weed out courses in the major. We were asked to describe how we would make an elephant fly, how much oil is used to make all the french toast for waffle house in a day, and other silly questions.<p>We were also asked to rewrite non-linear equations in new units, design simple industrial scale chemical processes, and generally do the kinds of problem solving engineering trains you to do.<p>These kinds of problems <i>are</i> relevant when done properly. The ability to reason with enormous quantities, think logically and out-of-the-box at once, make consistent complex plans, and, finally, explain these things to another person are often instrumental for solving problems and building new things. Those who passed <i>and enjoyed</i> this class are easy to pick out: they've been breezing through all of the upper level problem solving and group-based classes.<p>At the same time, I think something like that bike-for-the-blind answer is genius. Sometimes it does come down to rejecting the question or, perhaps better, redefining it in a way that is creative and useful. Who knows how well interviewers are prepared to respond to these answers though?
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jlees超过 15 年前
I enjoy interviews with these types of questions because I am nerdy enough to have wasted some of my youth buried up to the nose in logic puzzles and riddles, and sensible enough to research employers and interview tips to find out who asks these questions and which ones are commonly asked, and lucky enough to have studied mathematics and computer science at a university which teaches the birthday puzzle (probability) in its first term. Between all these, I'm not too bad at these questions, and very little of the reason for that is innate.<p>Anecdote: I was asked at interview "If I was in a room with 27 people and made a bet with you for $5 that no two people in the room shared a birthday, would you take the bet?". Answering "Yes", the reasoning being "I've done basic probability and covered the birthday puzzle, so know off the top of my head that you only need 23 people to get even odds" probably flagged me as arrogant (I had to explain why it was 23) but I felt good saying it. Interestingly the interview said only 1 in 10 people - interviewing for a fairly technical position that required a computer science degree - had encountered this before.
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yason超过 15 年前
The MS style riddles could be very useful in an interview, if used correctly.<p>The correct process is to weed out anyone who begins solving them.<p>A pragmatic get-it-done approach is generally far more useful at work than playing bit twiddling tricks with you mind.
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Elepsis超过 15 年前
While I agree with the general thought about the interview, the last example question has nothing to do with riddles and falls into a completely different category: designing with constraints.<p>In a job where a significant part of your responsibility is figuring out how a feature should work, and balancing that with a variety of obligations (accessibility, security, resources, what partner teams need), asking a question like 'how would you modify a bicycle to make it suitable for the blind?' is a reasonable way to see a person's approach to working through various aspects of a design and weighing different features without relying purely on domain knowledge of a specific area of software.
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russell超过 15 年前
I once applied for a job and got an email questionnaire back. On of the questions was, "Given 9 balls, one of which is heavier than he others, what is the minimum number of weighings to find the heavy ball? Write an algorithm."<p>I wrote back, "I have a question for you. What is the maximum number of balls from which you could find the heavy one in 5 weighings? If you know the answer to that one, then you know I know the answer to your problem."<p>Needless to say I didn't get the interview. Must have been written off as a smart-ass.
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selven超过 15 年前
Many of these are "think outside the box" type problems. For example, the one about the lightbulbs makes you think that the only information you get is binary - on or off. There are 4 possibilities - 0,1,2,3 on (position doesn't matter) but 6 configurations (123,132,213,231,312,321) making the problem impossible. The actual solution is to turn 1 on, turn a second on but turn it off just before you open the box, and leave a third off. Then it's a simple matter of checking which one's on, which one's hot and which one's off.
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bayareaguy超过 15 年前
While I personally enjoy Raymond Smullyan's logic puzzles, I don't think they are appropriate for an interview unless the job requires writing something along the lines of a Martin Gardner column.<p>Regarding bicycles for the visually impaired, I'd probably suggest a tandem model.
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cruise02超过 15 年前
I just want to point out that not everyone who asks these questions is just a sheep following the herd. My last manager asked a few questions of this sort just to weed out the applicants who gave the "extremely overcomplicated solution for a completely non-existent problem."
daleharvey超过 15 年前
I dont know if I am dumb, but is the river crossing one just 13 minutes? (assuming they all have to cross)<p>either way it doesnt seem like much of a riddle.
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kp812超过 15 年前
I first heard of brain teaser questions from Google, not MS, like how many golf balls fit inside a school bus. I wonder which company was first.
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mapleoin超过 15 年前
You push your car to the hotel, but when you get there you realize you've lost all your fortune. Why?
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