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David Chang's New Startup: A Restaurant Without the Restaurant

44 点作者 JrobertsHstaff大约 10 年前

14 条评论

dbot大约 10 年前
I don&#x27;t see many people talk about the packaging and food quality at the time of delivery. This is the absolute biggest factor for overall satisfaction. They mention trying to optimize delivery, but that only helps so much.<p>If you are doing high-end food, it need to travel extremely well. Having tried a lot of food delivery services - with both first- and third-party drivers - I rarely order anything other than pizza or Chinese food for delivery anymore.<p>Pizza places, Jimmy Johns, and many Chinese food restaurants have perfected the food experience and delivery network. But the truth is, their products are pretty average.
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rjett大约 10 年前
Interesting. By getting rid of front of house, that eliminates on average 80% of the square footage needed to be a full service restaurant, and they can vie for non-premium properties, so rent will be much cheaper. That said, all else is pretty much the same as any other restaurant business. Delivery drivers replace front of house workers on almost a one for one basis. Kitchen buildout is the same cost. And customers will be customers until they have their first bad experience.<p>They&#x27;re playing a volume game. And without alcohol sales, they&#x27;ll need a lot of volume. So then the question is this: Does &quot;fancy food&quot; from a high end chef like David Chang have a wide enough appeal to solicit the type of volume needed for this to be successful? I suspect it does in pockets of NYC. From a higher vantage point, I&#x27;m less optimistic.<p>Restaurants are about more than food though. Their job is to set a stage with design, lighting, music, background noises, service, plating, and conversation amongst other human beings. That&#x27;s why people pay $1000 for a bottle of wine, $45 for a New York Strip, or $4.50 for a cup of coffee. If we didn&#x27;t care about these other things, we would all be getting delivery, making our own food, or eating out of vending machines and paying 75% less to do so.
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michael_h大约 10 年前
&gt; costs $12 with tip and delivery included<p>Whoa, putting <i>all</i> the charges in the advertised price? Madness!<p>Seriously though, I wish this was the norm.
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GauntletWizard大约 10 年前
How is this different from Little Caesars or Dominos business model, except being app-only instead of phone-call based? My local dominos barely has a pick-up window as it&#x27;s storefront. There&#x27;s always a delivery guy pulling in or out.
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narwally大约 10 年前
If you enjoy cooking shows, definitely take a look at Mind of a Chef. David Chang is the star of the show&#x27;s first season, and it&#x27;s narrated by Anthony Bourdain. Probably the most cerebral cooking show I&#x27;ve ever seen.
wehadfun大约 10 年前
Pizza businesses have basically operated like this for years.
arasmussen大约 10 年前
How is this different than Sprig, Munchery, UberFRESH, Zesty, Deliverance, etc?
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physcab大约 10 年前
This idea became much more palatable to me when I went to a restaurant after work to grab some take-out for dinner. I walked inside and saw no one sitting down but the kitchen staff were furiously working and cooking. I thought it was so strange and wondered who they were cooking for. And then all of a sudden I saw: 1 postmates courier, 1 doordash courier and 1 caviar worker all walk in with giant bags. I realized how this new trend is going to change restaurants and make them more &#x27;lean&#x27;. No need to spend crazy amount of money for location, no need for a huge seating area, no need for expensive storage machines. Just a kitchen and distribution.
acconrad大约 10 年前
Are people interested in a lower-cost option? I find myself making the same meals (simple salads, chicken &amp; rice), and these do not cost a lot per meal, certainly not $12. It would be nice to order $3-5 meals of things I would normally cook but just don&#x27;t have time for, which would be appealing to the parents of the world. That is something I would set up a meal plan for so I never had to buy groceries or cook, but still receive high-quality (albeit basic) food.
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TillE大约 10 年前
I&#x27;ve thought about starting the same kind of business (delivery-only restaurant), but Manhattan is a ridiculously crowded market for moderately priced, high quality food.
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jcarpio大约 10 年前
How do you get good restaurant margins without alcohol sales? I wonder if the savings of not running an actual restaurant offsets that (or more).
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breakingcups大约 10 年前
In Holland we&#x27;ve had takeaway.com (thuisbezorgd.nl actually) for a long time. A lot of takeout places, but also some regular restaurants are on there. You can order with an app which takes just a few seconds. Does nothing like this exist in the US yet?
rwmj大约 10 年前
Sounds like Deliverance[1], which has been around in London since around 2002 or so.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.deliverance.co.uk&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.deliverance.co.uk&#x2F;</a>
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potatoyogurt大约 10 年前
I&#x27;m not sure if I get how this is any different from Munchery or Zesty. But hey, I&#x27;m not going to complain about another company I can harvest free meals from through referrals.