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Firefox OS for TV: UX Overview

124 点作者 Fudgel大约 10 年前

11 条评论

jonathansizz大约 10 年前
While it wasn&#x27;t difficult to understand what the author was trying to say, I found this post jarring to read.<p>Surely Mozilla have native English speakers who can at least edit their blog posts? Anything that goes out to the public affects Mozilla&#x27;s reputation, and should therefore be taken seriously.
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martingordon大约 10 年前
I hope someone can save us from the &quot;grid of icons&quot; UI that pervades set-top boxes. The grid works fine for handheld&#x2F;desktop applications where access is non-sequential, but when we&#x27;re using just directional arrows, that&#x27;s a lot of tedious button pressing.<p>Traditional TV service has the advantage of shortcuts by way of being able to jump to a channel directly using the number pad, but the top set-top boxes don&#x27;t have that affordance because they generally lack number pads.
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Brakenshire大约 10 年前
My flat screen TV seems to pick up about a second of latency every three months, it now takes about 12 seconds to load up the programme guide. I&#x27;d really like if it had proper OS that could be updated, reinstalled, and extended, rather than something cobbled together and frozen in time. Smart TVs are basically computers so they might as well have decent operating systems.
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jbk大约 10 年前
First, I fail to see the difference with the UX of the other smart TVs.<p>But mostly, as it is still Firefox OS, I don&#x27;t see how people will be able to do cool multimedia applications, without access to native code and threads. Implementing DLNA, SMB, AFP shares, listening to network devices, hardware decoding, perfect audio&#x2F;video synchronization requires threads and probably native code.<p>Limiting to HTML5 videos is going to be a very light. Or they will re-implement all the media center and multimedia code themselves, supporting all codecs and formats (and subtitles)?<p>I could somehow understand the limitation on the phone, but on a TV, multimedia playback is the massive use case.
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listic大约 10 年前
I wonder if Mozilla is in communication with Matchstick.tv developers? <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.matchstick.tv&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.matchstick.tv&#x2F;</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kickstarter.com&#x2F;projects&#x2F;matchstick&#x2F;matchstick-the-streaming-stick-built-on-firefox-os" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kickstarter.com&#x2F;projects&#x2F;matchstick&#x2F;matchstick-t...</a><p>Matchstick developers have gathered quite a lot of support for their croudfunding campaign, by promising an open software and hardware TV streaming stick due this February, and for a low price ($16+). Then, come February, they pissed off the vast majority of their supporters by suddenly announcing the 6-month delay in favor of things like hardware upgrade and DRM support, which none of their backers actually asked for. If it turns out that they were not in communication with Mozilla and their vision for Firefox OS TV&#x27;s is incoherent with Mozilla&#x27;s, then this project will truly end up a poor application of users&#x27; money and trust, bordering on a scam. Actually, a lot of supporters have lost faith in crowdfunding, and, presumably, Firefox OS, as it is; demanding their money back - not that Kickstarter supports it, after the project&#x27;s been funded.
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mkesper大约 10 年前
Please do not include several images &gt; 1MB in your posts. Ever thought of mobile users?
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linuxlefty大约 10 年前
The link is now returning a &quot;Not Found&quot; error. Google cache link for those interested: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:https%3A%2F%2Fblog.mozilla.org%2Fux%2F2015%2F04%2Ffirefox-os-for-tv-ux-overview%2F" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:https%...</a>
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lighthawk大约 10 年前
It looks good, and don&#x27;t want to shoot down the UI, but here are some suggestions:<p>In regard to pictures 4 and 5, Roku tried the fully horizontal menu for a while, but wasn&#x27;t great. It&#x27;s too limiting. Think about using a vertical left and a grid right like they do. It fits more and given the right control, works pretty well to navigate, even if it isn&#x27;t the prettiest.<p>And, if you only do one thing, remember the rule of simplification and reduce the number of visual elements required to convey the same information. Examples...<p>In picture 6, you shouldn&#x27;t need icons strawn about the window left, right, and bottom. All kinds of space wasted for no apparent reason.<p>In picture 7, just say no to the advertisement looking things in the top bar and the useless title and description at top. If you must get their attention, make them go through a screen to have full attention on your singular announcement. Don&#x27;t make noise.<p>In picture 8, having the blue under each black and white icon is a little distracting, and the text and icons have features too small to read or recognize easily.
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yellowapple大约 10 年前
What&#x27;s the feasibility of getting this variety of Firefox OS &#x2F; B2G running directly on real hardware either now or in the near future? Ubuntu for TVs ended up being miscarried because Canonical didn&#x27;t provide anything prospective hardware developers could <i>easily</i> download, build, and deploy to prototype hardware (and end users &#x2F; software developers couldn&#x27;t do the same with COTS hardware), and it would be a shame if the same happened to this for the same exact reasons. It looks like there&#x27;s already the ability to run it in an emulator (with some custom make flags for Gaia), which is a start, but the ability to, say, pack this into an ISO or USB image and boot it on an ordinary HTPC would make for a really compelling home media platform and probably drive implementation rather significantly (rather unlike what happened to the TV variant of Ubuntu).
justaman大约 10 年前
First person to use a Duck Hunt zapper to control the UI wins a cookie.<p>Its an annoyance to repeatedly use arrow keys on remotes.
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striking大约 10 年前
The UI is (almost) just like any other on a Smart TV. Okay. Strikes me as somewhat unimaginative.<p>Also, the Dashboard is a separate app. Like, um, in a car, right? Just like the radio and temperature controls are away from the user, so they have to look away from the road (their focus) to access it, right? Right.<p>What this UX actually needs, instead of being an app menu that can access TV or whatever, is TV-centric design. It needs a focus. Provide a viewport that apps can draw to, and allow switching of apps without having to &quot;look away&quot; from the content.<p>Folder tabs? Search? (Please don&#x27;t add a) favorites menu? They&#x27;re all acceptable ways to provide apps to users, but this is none of them.<p>You must be forgetting that most people use TVs for the video content. I&#x27;m not saying &quot;oh, get rid of YouTube and Netflix,&quot; I&#x27;m saying &quot;constrain yourself to video output because no one really cares about the web on a TV box.&quot; Yeah, cool, you can go to webpages that have totally broken design and are totally illegible on TV (hi, HN!). I mean, an RSS reader makes sense, because then the TV (and thus, the user) has control of how the content&#x27;s displayed. But &quot;FF on TV&quot; sounds like a really bad idea to me, because the Web sucks on anything that isn&#x27;t a computer.<p>&gt; The usage of applications on smart TV is getting huge, and it needs an re-framing of the UI structure to make the application as important as TV channels, and as input sources.<p>No, it isn&#x27;t. No, it doesn&#x27;t. Unless you mean you&#x27;re going to make my Netflix another channel just like Fox News, which would be pretty nice. But that differs in the fact that Netflix is a video focused application that acts a lot like a channel or something. But that means you had better add a unified UI for video playback. Netflix and YouTube and everything should share the same UI widgets.<p>A dashboard that can be activated on command is cute and can possibly be a good idea. Like, maybe show it for a moment during that period where the TV is adjusting to a new signal or something to allow the user to peek at it by default so they can see alerts (&quot;hey, Hillary Clinton&#x27;s running for Pres! I need to pull up the CNN Channel!&quot;), and then allow them to later press a button to show a dashboard that doesn&#x27;t force them out of their content. But if you push them out of the content, the illusion is broken. It&#x27;s no longer a TV, it&#x27;s a computer. A big, complicated computer, with lots of little nodes in its huge and complex menu. And only us nerds want that, because us nerds like intricate and complex things. (there&#x27;s nothing wrong with catering to nerds, but I don&#x27;t think that this is supposed to be directed towards them, because they could just as easily grab a Raspberry Pi and load up XBMC on it without having to invent their own new flavor of Linux)<p>PS: adding a focus means your UI will be necessarily shallow. It will force you to get creative when you want to get complex in writing a good UI. Snapchat, for example, has a focus on the camera. Swipe from the left, you get your incoming Snaps. Swipe from the right, you get your Stories. Swipe from the top to see stuff about you and your settings. And that&#x27;s the extent to which anyone uses Snapchat.
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