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Is It OK for Employers to Seek Out ‘Digital Natives’?

49 点作者 pierrealexandre大约 10 年前

15 条评论

rayiner大约 10 年前
The term &quot;digital native&quot; irks me for another reason, which is the presumption that younger people have a better understanding of technology than older people. Kids these days understand the Facebook and the Twitter, but they&#x27;re deeply insulated from how computers actually work.<p>One thing my wife pointed out to me is that her teenaged siblings have a lot more trouble finding things on Google than she does, because they don&#x27;t remember constructing search terms from back before Google got (relatively) good at parsing natural language.
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delinka大约 10 年前
I am a digital native. I grew up with a computer. I obtained digital connectivity through acquaintances and friends. I got &quot;online&quot; before the Internet existed. I was on a team that wrote one of the first Internet-enabled fantasy sports websites. I&#x27;ve watched my peers (some younger, some older) re-invent the breakthroughs of the 1960s and 1970s and call it these reinventions &quot;brand new.&quot;<p>I am a digital native with decades of experience living in the digital frontiers. Yes, plural.
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jcadam大约 10 年前
I&#x27;m in my mid-30s, grew up tinkering&#x2F;programming&#x2F;etc., but I have to admit I just don&#x27;t <i>get</i> social media. But then I&#x27;m not a very sociable person in general. My wife (not a techie), however, is all over facebook&#x2F;pinterest&#x2F;twitter&#x2F;etc. doing God knows what while I&#x27;m coding all day.<p>How I learned of the existence of Pinterest:<p>Me: &quot;Where did you say you posted that thing?&quot;<p>Wife (annoyed): &quot;Pinterest&quot;<p>&quot;Your what?&quot;<p>&quot;Pinterest&quot;<p>&quot;WTF is Pinterest?&quot;<p>&quot;Seriously?!&quot;<p><i>edit: Pintrest, Pinterest, eh?</i>
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petercooper大约 10 年前
I didn&#x27;t use that specific term because it sounds as stupid as &quot;rockstar&quot; or &quot;ninja&quot;, but when I was hiring recently I only used Facebook ads (which you <i>could</i> target to specific genders or ages, if you wanted - I only targeted by location) and stressed that the job(s) required someone comfortable with the Internet, social media, and Internet culture (which, indeed, they do). I only got applications from people in their mid 20s and younger but found the right people for the job.
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taprun大约 10 年前
The title is very misleading and an example of linkbait. It should be something like &quot;Can Employers Request Traits That Older Folks Are Unlikely to Possess?&quot;
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jldugger大约 10 年前
Digital natives do not exist in numbers you think. Fewer than 1 percent of entering freshmen have ever edited a wiki:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=hghekXykt-k&amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;t=706" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=hghekXykt-k&amp;feature=youtu.be...</a><p>EDIT: Totally misremembered, its more like 17 percent.
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butterfi大约 10 年前
The term &quot;Digital Native&quot; is one of my biggest pet peeves. I once asked Howard Rhinegold if he felt there was any justification to the &quot;digital natives&quot; idea and he expressed that in his experience in teaching freshmen at both Stanford and Cal, there was no such person.<p>I started playing with computers in the late 70&#x27;s. Got my first job working in video arcades in the early 80&#x27;s. Got my webmaster job in &#x27;94. If my kids are digital natives, what does that make me?<p>edited for clarity
kefka大约 10 年前
Digital Native, eh?<p>I&#x27;ve been on the Internet since &#x27;86, when my dad was at school at Purdue. I had a commodore 64, and 2 1541 drives. One was hacked by me for bootlegging.<p>I did the BBS&#x27;es but found them boring when compared to the &#x27;net. I could also get into newsgroups which had a wealth of knowledge and the connections to talk to the greats of CompSci.<p>I remember when we got our first dialup service, back when there here dozens of ISPs, and when Windows didn&#x27;t have an IP layer. I remember setting up my own FreeBSD server to handle networking and dialup mediation (was 13). I lucked in at an auction and got a SunSparc lunchbox. Crazy computer.<p>I obtained my amateur radio license, as well as learning about analog circuitry and tubes. That&#x27;s old, even by the previous generation&#x27;s standards. And yet, I now 3d print tube sockets for my 300+ collection of tubes. Hard to buy them these days, so I make them. Oh, and I&#x27;m also good at 3d design.<p>I saw the advent of Google, and how it overtook Yahoo, Altavista, Lycos, and other older search engines. I remember Napster, Kazaa, and others. I still have the first file ever bittorrented, porn. I remember when I heard about the Harvard social network, The Facebook. I knew it would kill MySpace, even then.<p>I&#x27;m 33. Am I too old for &quot;Digital Native&quot;?
protomyth大约 10 年前
No, employers are not allowed to come up with a code word that allows them to exclusively hire younger people. Switch &quot;digital native&quot; with &quot;millennial&quot; and see how that fairs in court.<p>Also, I really resent the implication on this one, like many in this thread. I grew up with a computer and digital communications before the internet.
srryaccntcrtn大约 10 年前
Even though I&#x27;m a millenial guy myself but one of those pioneers of the generation - no not a 90s kid - and I still feel that younger folks than me are at advantage compared to us we slightly older folks when it comes to technology.<p>I have not taken computers seriously till 2000 and the internet not before 2005 (The broadband revolution took some time to enter my country of origin) and as we might all know, the web back then was more or less pathetic thanks to MSIE monopoly and the resulting stagnation.<p>So, I didn&#x27;t take web development seriously back then and I waited for the thing to explode and rise meteorically before jumping the bandwagon and therefore I&#x27;m kind of behind the curve when it staying updated of all the ongoing developments in the field compared to my younger peers who are more &quot;digital native&quot; to these technologies than me and therefore less suitable for &quot;young&quot; jobs in startups or orgs.<p>I think we should accept that our field favors young talents like pro sports and athletics and everyone of us has a &quot;shelf life&quot; in a certain role in the organization and that he&#x2F;she should strive to move the higher rank in managerial or lead position as soon as possible before getting displaced by younger talents who are fresh, ambitious, eager to learn and achieve and have high exposure to all the new &quot;fancy&quot; and &quot;shiny&quot; technologies that the market demands at the time.
funkyy大约 10 年前
Is it OK for Employers to seek out employee they want? Yes, their business, their decision.
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ichbinant大约 10 年前
When I hear &quot;digital native&quot;, I think of a generation familiar with Snapchat, Instagram, Vine, etc... So they would -somehow- be more familiar with creating content for those platforms.<p>I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s an age issue.<p>Or else how can you not call someone who has been in the IT business for 30 years a &quot;digital native&quot;?<p>It is about what part of that &quot;digital&quot; you are dealing with.
balls187大约 10 年前
&quot;Smart, talented, and can get the job done.&quot;<p>That&#x27;s what I look for.<p>Also:<p>&quot;Can they be coached?&quot;<p>&quot;Do they need coaching?&quot;<p>&quot;How is their personality?&quot;<p>&quot;How do they display passion?&quot;
alexqgb大约 10 年前
FWIW, Tim Berners Lee wasn&#x27;t a &quot;digital native&quot; and he understood the web well enough to invent it.
0xdeadbeefbabe大约 10 年前
A company seeking &#x27;Digital Natives&#x27; would be the company where Dilbert&#x27;s boss works.