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Show HN: Typedetail.com – featuring Apple's new typeface San Francisco

137 点作者 professionis将近 10 年前

16 条评论

empressplay将近 10 年前
That&#x27;s not the San Francisco font I remember...<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;San_Francisco_%281984_typeface%29" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;San_Francisco_%281984_typeface%...</a>
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namuol将近 10 年前
&gt; The typeface is licensed exclusively to registered third-party developers for the “design and development of applications for the Apple Watch”. [1]<p>Cool. Another font for web designers to wrongfully assume I have installed on my system.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;San_Francisco_(2014_typeface)" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;San_Francisco_(2014_typeface)</a>
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cpr将近 10 年前
Is it OK to say the emperor has no clothes?<p>I think this is an ugly, clumsy typeface, designed primarily for legibility in a particular small application (the watch). Now it&#x27;s now rumored to be destined as the system font in 10.11.<p>Going from graceful, readable Lucida to ok-only-in-Retina-but-even-then-hard-to-read-and-overused Helvetica to this new San Francisco is just plain frustrating. Maybe readability trumps taste, but in that case, just go back to Lucida.
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timothya将近 10 年前
On a related note, here&#x27;s a comparison between Apple&#x27;s San Francisco and Google&#x27;s Roboto, along with FF DIN and Helvetica: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fontshop.de&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2014&#x2F;11&#x2F;comparison.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fontshop.de&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2014&#x2F;11&#x2F;comparison...</a>
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jug将近 10 年前
I&#x27;m postively surprised. I didn&#x27;t expect this from Apple, but it actually does look good with the Windows font renderer here (Firefox, so I assume DirectWrite), down to at least 9px. The hinting could perhaps be better on a few letters but I expected none care taken whatsoever. Of course, this could be a lucky accident, not sure if Apple did this intentionally. The thin weights seem OK as well, something else that can not always be expected. Looks decent for general use unless Apple prevents that by licensing.<p>I never liked Helvetica Neue in user interfaces so I&#x27;m happy to soon (hopefully) see it gone from iOS.<p>Edit: OK, so it&#x27;s only to be used by either Apple or Apple apps.
Aloisius将近 10 年前
The Apple Watch Design Resources license where the font seems to have originated is pretty strict about using this font:<p><i>Limited License. Subject to the terms of this License, you may use the Apple Font solely for purposes of design and development of applications for the Apple Watch. The foregoing right includes the right to show the Apple Font in screen shots, images or mock-ups of an Apple Watch application.</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.apple.com&#x2F;watchkit&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.apple.com&#x2F;watchkit&#x2F;</a> (after clicking on Apple Watch Design Resources)
hartator将近 10 年前
To install it now: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;supermarin&#x2F;YosemiteSanFranciscoFont" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;supermarin&#x2F;YosemiteSanFranciscoFont</a>
chinathrow将近 10 年前
License confusion here. Isn&#x27;t that font Apple only? How can that blog (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nicholastodor.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;use-apples-new-san-francisco-font-on-your-website" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nicholastodor.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;use-apples-new-san-francis...</a>) make it available for download?
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thanatropism将近 10 年前
Ask type professionals: what are good typefaces for spreadsheets (tabular numeric data), onscreen and in print?<p>Onscreen I&#x27;ve been switching Excel&#x27;s default to Consolas, which is more compact yet more readable. Other programs have unchangeable defaults (but they rely more on fix-width, too).
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Quanttek将近 10 年前
The font rendering on the linked blog article is pretty atrocious on my PC: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;DL5pZKE.png" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;DL5pZKE.png</a><p>This is in Firefox Developer on Linux with the Infinality font rendering installed.<p>I&#x27;m probably doing something wrong
derrasterpunkt将近 10 年前
For those of you with a Developer Account, the fonts can be downloaded here:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.apple.com&#x2F;watch&#x2F;human-interface-guidelines&#x2F;resources&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.apple.com&#x2F;watch&#x2F;human-interface-guidelines...</a><p>The rounded version is missing in the package, though.<p>The whole font is in the iOS-Simulator[1], but they don&#x27;t seem to be usable. They have a &quot;.San Fransico …&quot; name.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;chockenberry&#x2F;status&#x2F;534865299234127872" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;chockenberry&#x2F;status&#x2F;534865299234127872</a>
rdancer将近 10 年前
This is a ridiculously incomplete sample sheet. Most of the iOS, OS X, and Watch OS users will need to display characters outside the non-accented English alphabet.<p>Nerding out about minute-to-nonexistent differences from Helvetica is cute, but how will it actually look in real-life application?! Way to miss the point.
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thisisblurry将近 10 年前
Maybe I&#x27;m missing something obvious, but could someone explain why a handful of letters (G, J, K, M, etc.) have emphasis?
melted将近 10 年前
I like it. It just looks &quot;right&quot; somehow, and it&#x27;s more optically dense, so it&#x27;ll look good on all kinds of screens as well. Picking Helvetica Neue was a bit of a brain fart on Jony&#x27;s part.
gpvos将近 10 年前
Can we do away with those s-t ligatures please? They&#x27;re visually disturbing and serve no purpose. In a font for reproducing ancient text, okay. But not in any modern text please.
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nblavoie将近 10 年前
This font sucks.
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