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IRS says thieves stole tax info from 100,000

144 点作者 davidlago将近 10 年前

14 条评论

patja将近 10 年前
I started &quot;working&quot; a few hours a week teaching programming at my kids&#x27; school. When they put me on the payroll I was astounded by the number of forms I had to fill out. I counted 15 forms requiring my signature, no less than 5 of which required my SSN.<p>Lo and behold, there was a data breach of employee and volunteer records. Volunteers had to have background checks, which required the SSN. Thousands of people had their IRS return hijacked due to this breach. I personally know dozens of people who were impacted.<p>From what I&#x27;ve seen of their information security, I remain completely unsurprised that they had this breach and that to this date they have no idea how it happened.
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bcantrill将近 10 年前
I believe that this actually happened to me -- which tells me the 100,000 number is way too low. To be more precise: when we went to electronically file our 2014 return, it was rejected because our return had already been filed (not by us, of course). I (like 80+ million others) am a victim of the Anthem breach, and I have assumed that my fraudulent return was part of that breach. (Regardless, I have opted into the identity protection that Anthem has provided as restitution to victims of the breach.[1])<p>As part of clearing this up with the IRS, I had to verify my own identity and validate that the return that we (physically) sent was the true and correct return. After a whopping 2+ hours on hold, I ran a grueling gauntlet of rather obscure questions that amount to some flimsy shared secrets I happen to have with the IRS. Once my identity was confirmed, I learned that the thieves had filed a 2014 AGI that exactly matched my 2013 AGI. The IRS representative told me that this was unusual (that is, that they normally they just make numbers up), and it&#x27;s clearly stupid (my return was flagged and didn&#x27;t pay out), but it obviously left me concerned that someone had somehow located my 2013 return. With this latest revelation, it&#x27;s now clear that this could have easily happened via the IRS itself.<p>Assuming that my experience is indicative of a larger trend, I expect many more similar revelations as the IRS picks up the debris from the 2014 tax season -- and it wouldn&#x27;t surprise me at all if the true target of the Anthem breach wasn&#x27;t in fact the IRS: this crime is just too damn easy to pull off and get away with. The bright side of all this: things very clearly have to change, and I wouldn&#x27;t be at all surprised if the IRS ends up issuing PINs to all e-filers this coming year.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.anthemfacts.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.anthemfacts.com</a>
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malchow将近 10 年前
If this were a company, the headline would have been &quot;IRS hacked; tax information stolen from 100,000.&quot; Instead the IRS was able to spin it to The Washington Post. The headline is &quot;thieves stole tax info.&quot; Thieves!<p>The real headline is that the IRS is hackable.
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zaroth将近 10 年前
Krebs wrote about this in March: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;krebsonsecurity.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;03&#x2F;sign-up-at-irs-gov-before-crooks-do-it-for-you&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;krebsonsecurity.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;03&#x2F;sign-up-at-irs-gov-before...</a><p>He has some good advice; claim your account before someone else does.
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revelation将近 10 年前
Something is wrong with the wording here. Thieves stole the tax info <i>of</i> 100,000 but they stole it <i>from</i> the IRS.<p>Make no mistake: IRS needs to be held responsible for this. It is their fault.
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bane将近 10 年前
Taxes in the U.S. are absolutely ridiculous. Nearly everything is already reported to the IRS by employers, banks, brokers, etc. Why spend hours filling out and copying all that crap, and signing thing after thing after thing just to send the IRS information they already have?<p>The problem seems to be trying to carve out exemptions for little things here and there.<p>Just use a decent tax rate, get rid of all that crap, calculate what I owe and send me a bill or send me a check if I over-withheld or something.<p>Ugh it&#x27;s so hard building a proper civilization.
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byoung2将近 10 年前
<i>The IRS said the thieves accessed a system called “Get Transcript.” In order to access the information, the thieves cleared a security screen that required knowledge about the taxpayer, including Social Security number, date of birth, tax filing status and street address.</i><p>Do we know if the system was compromised, or if the thieves just had access to the personal information of those taxpayers?
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davidcelis将近 10 年前
If you&#x27;re wondering whether or not this happened to you, one way to know is if you were able to file your own return. If your own tax return was rejected because it had already been filed, it means someone was able to attempt to file a fraudulent return using your identity. Of course, this is only assuming that they managed to submit a return as you at all. It&#x27;s possible your information was taken but not used.
jsat将近 10 年前
Imagine if all government software was open source and significant bug reports and contributions were rewarded with cash... I hope we reach some happy medium between that and what we have today in the future.
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vinhboy将近 10 年前
I&#x27;ll never understand why our politicians continue to cut funding to the one organization that could help the government save AND make more money.<p>Not to mention save all of us from the headache of things like this.
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scottm01将近 10 年前
It looks like they&#x27;ve at least pulled the link to request transcripts online.<p><i>Alert:</i> <i>The online Get Transcript service is currently unavailable.</i> <i>Transcripts may still be ordered using the Get Transcript by</i> <i>Mail service. We apologize for any inconvenience.</i>
daveloyall将近 10 年前
Multiple commenters have said that ~100,000 is &quot;too low&quot;.<p>The number quoted in the article is 104,000.<p>Obvious questions:<p>1. Is 104,000 the exact count, or has it been rounded?<p>2. Did the hackers stop when their success count got there?<p>3. Does nobody else think it is funny that 1040 is a factor of 104,000? :)<p>[edited a lot]
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jakeogh将近 10 年前
Translation: We are going to collect your data. Give it to us, or else. If it&#x27;s stolen, that&#x27;s your problem. You dont get to choose.
newman8r将近 10 年前
yeah this happened to me last year