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The culture where play is shameful (2012)

109 点作者 dirtyaura将近 10 年前

12 条评论

bane将近 10 年前
Papua New Guinea is endlessly studied. Jared Diamond speculates various reasons for why the people there didn&#x27;t develop into a post-hunter-gatherer civilization (or much beyond that). While much of his work has been disputed, I think it&#x27;s still an interesting question.<p>I can&#x27;t help sometimes when reading anthropological studies or videos of a pre-modern civilization that a terrible amount of time is spent on rituals and dances and other things and perhaps the key is that other, faster developing groups of people simply found a different balance between work and these non-productive activities.<p>However, the Baining seem to represent the opposite end, doing nothing <i>but</i> productive work, and yet they aren&#x27;t exactly the unusually advanced Atlanteans of PNG either.<p>So I was struck by this &quot;and exhibited little curiosity or enthusiasm&quot; and it kind of hits me how important imagination and enthusiasm are in the process of <i>advancing</i> things. Toil gets stuff done, but you&#x27;re just running in place. Imagination is a kind of play, and it&#x27;s necessary to move you forward as well.
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adevine将近 10 年前
Ugh, that culture sounds like hell on earth. I am amazed by the unique capability of humans to take our most ingrained needs and desires and turn them into shame. Whether it be sex, or food, or &quot;wasting time&quot;, or even just displays of emotion, we have somehow managed to turn these most central of human feelings into something bad. I&#x27;m not arguing that we should completely give ourselves over to our base urges, but acknowledging they exist, that everyone has them, and that they can be a wonderful thing would be a great start.
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zem将近 10 年前
the comment thread is excellent, and a lot more insightful than the article (which was interesting, but seemed a bit simplified and superficial to me). note especially the comments from actual baining people.
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Red_Tarsius将近 10 年前
It&#x27;s like an alien culture out of a Star Trek episode.<p>Play is not an anomaly, but the essence of personal and technological development. The fuel of progress is play and <i>Learning by example</i> is no substitute for <i>trial and error</i>. On top of that, a play-less culture is not resilient at all, and therefore prone to extinction.
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dschiptsov将近 10 年前
There must be some confusion, at least with too abstract concepts. Every evolutionary psychologist will tell you that &quot;play&quot; is how humans and animals learn - by imitating and &quot;practising&quot;. It is related to social and especially matting &quot;skills&quot;, or, a more correct world - &quot;habits&quot;. Play is evolutionary way to develop useful habits. So-called &quot;mirror neurons&quot; meme explains social aspect of &quot;play&quot;. If this society isn&#x27;t extinguished yet, it means that observed phenomena is rather a product if imagination and wishful thinking.<p>But nowadays everything written without obscene words and spelling errors could be considered &quot; scientific&quot;.
pizu将近 10 年前
&quot;She found, however, that she could study them by following them around and observing their daily activities and interactions.&quot; Are you f$%&quot;£ kidding me? This sounds like such a revelation but is so bleeding obvious. Of course you have to observe people in their natural habitat, WATCHING them, not just sending them a SurveyMonkey survey or asking a buncha questions. C&#x27;mon people. Get real!
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Reason077将近 10 年前
While reading this article, I mentally replaced &quot;Baining&quot; with &quot;British&quot;. And sadly, it rang true.
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amelius将近 10 年前
I wonder how this culture would transform if it were subjected to facebook.
aaa123456将近 10 年前
Sounds like Asian parents, especially &#x27;Tiger Moms&#x27;.
flycaliguy将近 10 年前
Reminds me of my in-laws who get this puzzled look on their face when I (rarely) mention my music.
comrade1将近 10 年前
I don&#x27;t see how the early anthropologists would be so bored with this tribe. They sound so different than anything else and fascinating.<p>This shows how important play is to develop imaginary things like gods, rituals, etc. however, I do wish American adults played a little less. Whenever I&#x27;m in the u.s. or when American friends visit me they&#x27;re constantly futzing around on their phone playing games. I mean constantly and nearly everyone.<p>Imagine how much you could accomplish if you used that time to for example learn a new language. And before you say that people need to take a break every now and then the people playing these games don&#x27;t seem to be taking it easy - they&#x27;re working really hard it!<p>So there probably is some value in shaming play, at least in adults.
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dang将近 10 年前
Url changed from <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;io9.com&#x2F;5929918&#x2F;so-called-dullest-culture-on-earth-frowns-upon-sex-and-bans-play" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;io9.com&#x2F;5929918&#x2F;so-called-dullest-culture-on-earth-fr...</a>, which points to this.